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What do you guys think about this.....Abortion !!
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: cjwood on July 25, 2014, 03:09:07 PM ---did Jesus lift His voice on high to speak about the evil, social topics of His day? no he did not. why should we? ALL is of God.
i had an abortion when i was 17 yrs old. my parents drove me to san antonio from the small town we lived in south texas. there was no (legal) facility that would do abortions in my town. it was a horrible experience for all of us. it was an excruciating time and decision we had to make. i had overdosed/seizured/lost consciousness on cocaine while not knowing i was in the early weeks of pregnancy. i survived the cocaine ordeal by the mercy of God. (never told my parents about that part. i had graduated from high school, not living at home). i have asked God's forgiveness for putting my parents through such a horrible ordeal, for the death of the newly formed, unborn child, and forgiveness for myself. and every time i see a bumper sticker about abortion i plead for forgiveness again. and reading this thread telling how there will be an accounting and recompense for abortion just rips it all open again.
pointing the finger at all women who have ever had an abortion (especially without knowing why) makes one appear to be their judge. let all men be silenced and only God be the Righteous Judge.
claudia
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Peace Claudia,
Let go of what is past.
Jesus will heal all our hurts.
Dave in Tenn:
Amen.
Rhys 🕊:
And a yippee Amen too ;)
Rhys
walt123:
Hello All
Abortion? or whatever else? evil, sin etc, it has to be,no way around it.
Ray's email
Dear Nameless:
Thank you for your email and questions.
There are billions and billions of people that God has not yet saved. Your questions is more basic than just why didn't God save those in the twin towers.
All of such things are examples of evil. God created evil for a purpose. So naturally He will not make evil inoperative at every turn in the road or there would have been no purpose in creating it in the first place.
Evil serves many noble purposes. One of which is a back drop for good. Good cannot be understood or certainly not appreciated without a backdrop of evil. Evil makes good appear even better and is certainly much more appreciated.
Evil is necessary for the production or development of good. You cannot name one virtue that is not in some way produced by the resistance to some form of evil.
All knowledge is matter of contrast and relativity. One cannot know what light is unless he has been acquainted with darkness. One has no conception of large unless he also knows of things that are small. Up is only up in relation to down. Life is the opposite of death, etc. To understand and fully appreciate all of these things, there are many necessary experiences to go through. God creates and puts us through these many things in the development of godly character.
All of these evils can be likened to the creation of a beautiful building. Ugly scaffolding is necessary in the construction of this building. It is ugly and serves no purpose other than in the actual construction of the building. When the building is completed, the scaffolding is torn down and discarded. It serves no further purpose. All evil will be discarded one day. And the last enemy, DEATH, will likewise be ABOLISHED FOR EVER (I Cor. 15:26) and God will "ALL in All"!!!
May God be with you and grant you wisdom and understanding.
Sincerely,
Ray
PS JFK , I believe God said some where that he knew you or us before we were even conceived,I don't think we had breath or breathing at that time.
Walt.
arion:
--- Quote from: cjwood on July 25, 2014, 03:09:07 PM --- i have asked God's forgiveness for putting my parents through such a horrible ordeal, for the death of the newly formed, unborn child, and forgiveness for myself. and every time i see a bumper sticker about abortion i plead for forgiveness again. and reading this thread telling how there will be an accounting and recompense for abortion just rips it all open again.
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Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Claudia, you have to believe that and walk in that. You don't have to continue to plead forgiveness every time you see a bumper sticker. You are forgiven and will never have to account for that again. Now believe that...because it's true!!
What if a male when he was 20 years old who has posted on this thread caused his 18 year old girlfriend to get an abortion and now he is in his 50's? This isn't a woman only issue. As a man I'm as guilty for pressuring a girl as you would be for going through with it and perhaps the man is even more responsible.
Although I know of and walk in such forgiveness yet I also know that all this sin will have to be dealt with on an individual basis in the ages to come if we don't repent now and I also know from the old testament [which is still part of God's word] that nations as a whole bear the weight in the here and now for the collective sin of the land. I point us to Ray's papers on the towers. Even now I believe we are beginning to see coming to pass in this nation what Ray warned us about. It is what it is.
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