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Rinus:
Relatively speaking we are not all wrong.Ray is right and Joel oesteen,paul washer,pastor mporo are wrong. If Ray was wrong YOU would not be here.
Relatively speaking some here are wrong and others are right especially when we give our opinions in trying to help someone. So don't feel like too bad if your opinions are challenged and proved to be wrong by others. They are not judging you, but are judging your words. They can't judge you anyway because they don't know you on a personal level.
santgem:
--- Quote from: Rinus on August 28, 2014, 05:03:46 AM ---Relatively speaking we are not all wrong.Ray is right and Joel oesteen,paul washer,pastor mporo are wrong. If Ray was wrong YOU would not be here.
Relatively speaking some here are wrong and others are right especially when we give our opinions in trying to help someone. So don't feel like too bad if your opinions are challenged and proved to be wrong by others. They are not judging you, but are judging your words. They can't judge you anyway because they don't know you on a personal level.
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Hi Rinus,
Greetings!
I hope and pray that someday we will judge people and to become a judge. God willing that we will endure up to the end so that we can judge them. :) ;)
For more than three years since i stumbled in this site i did not perform or practice catholicism.
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 27, 2014, 05:16:09 PM ---The 'nations' of Christendom conducted the Crusades. The 'nations' of Christendom used the wealth, philosophy, "wisdom" of babylon to build and sustain their power. Empires were built and destroyed on her back. Even today, in this more secular age, the 'god' of the Church is the 'god' of the world...even to atheists! The world knows nothing of the Most High except what the church has said, and taught, and demonstrated.
The world-wide religious establishment is in the world, of the world, informs the world, condemns the world, excuses the world. Every person with every point of view "quotes" the bible to make their point. Babylon the great will fall and the world won't know what to do with itself.
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Thats a good answer. Thanks.
lareli:
Dave I like the answer you gave regarding Rev 18 being about the church and Christianity... But Ray said prophecy is dual and sometimes multilayered and he also wrote this about Rev 18..
Not only do our Christian seers and prophets preach "deceits and smooth THINGS," but our news media does likewise. Not only is the news toothless, but when it comes to what is really happening in the world, most Americans are clueless.
"Alas, alas that GREAT CITY Babylon, that MIGHTY CITY! For in one hour is your judgment come" (Rev. 18:10).
Ironically, the South Tower collapsed in just 56 minutes after being impacted. Is God sending us a message?
"And [they] cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!" (Rev. 18:18).
was he suggesting that Rev 18's Babylon is also the USA?
lareli:
Dave don't leave me hangin man..
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