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I feel so alone
ez2u:
alright you and this woman have a child together a daughter 3 years old and are you living together? for how long? is this a common law marriage? is she a Christian? yes christian live together now. i know in relationships sometimes you level off and feel like you don't care for the person as much as before but love is not like what we think it is,which is a movie. Love is more subtle . being there each day doing and living its not romance as much as being a part of someones else life. sometimes a person doesn't know how much they learn to grow with another until that person dies. sharing your lives together with a child is great motivator to be committed to each other. I don't believe the government has the rights on declaring marriages. that is Gods doing. It is always better to make that big step in a relationship by commitment to God. That is what has held my marriage of 30 years together. not the state. divorces destroy families, terribly hurts children ,separation do too. that child needs both her parents. always working together. you have been working very hard to get ahead and become a doctor that is a lot of pressure my last three children has done the same in different fields going through colleges getting their jobs. none of them are marriage, no children nor in a relationship. you have bitten a big bite of the apple in a short time no wonder yo are sooo stressed. i really mean what i have said here. i don't believe you know how much you are doing in a very short time
Abednego:
I have read that before where Ray talked about marriage. And as usual, I didn't find anything there that I disagree with. I understand the importance of the paper, but that teaching still leaves me with the biggest unanswered question, Where do you get the paper?
Matthew 19:6(KJV)
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
The key here is what God has joined. So how does God join you?
Not to pick, but let's use the Catholic church as an example. They will give you that piece of "paper". If you marry in the Catholic church and get divorced (which is a no no) they will not let you marry again. And I know there are situations where you can remarry. I don't know any of the rules, but it doesn't matter for this issue.
If you get married in an Episcopal or Methodist church and get divorced, then you can get married in the Catholic church. Why? Because according to them since you were never married in the Catholic church to begin with you were never really married. Huh? And if you have children already that doesn't matter.
And then of course there's the body and blood that is part of the ceremony. How does God view this and is He really joining you here?
Just about any other denomination you can name will also give you that piece of paper, but the person performing the needed ceremony, will be preaching some of the most damnable heresies know to mankind. Is God joining you through all that? I don't know.
So, ok, let's just go with a justice of the peace. Well, they might honor any vows you want to say, but does it matter what they believe? They'll marry people from any denomination, and we all know how denominations vary in their beliefs. So is it ok to get married by a JP if he believes people are going to suffer in an eternal hell? Or maybe doesn't even believe in God for all I know. Does God join people under such a person? I don't have an answer.
I'm just glad I'm married now, because if I found Ray's teaching before I met my wife I would not have been able to marry her without searching and learning more. Yet all is of God so I know I'm supposed to be with her.
Not trying to rain on you Alex, your situation isn't exactly stellar. Don't know what I would do if I were you. Maybe I'm really over-thinking this, and some of the wiser people here can fill me in on something I'm missing.
FWIW, I am getting an idea on marriage, but this isn't the place for it, and if I told anyone what I was thinking, they'd call the men in the long white coats. It isn't on the top of my study list atm, but some day I hope to have the time to look into it.
lilitalienboi16:
Jesse, Virginia and Abednego, thank you for your comments.
I especially appreciate the thoughtful perspective you've provided Abednego. I think you make interesting points.
I suppose this is between the Father and myself on this one and no one can really give me a clear cut answer on what to do next. I'm praying and doing my best to obey Him in hopes of some deliverance from this delima.
I did take some steps to speak with her father, who had some harsh words for me but I appreciated his candor. In the end her father told me he doesn't know what I should do but that being engaged doesn't fix problems in and of itself. We have to take steps to address the issues that have caused us to reach this point in our relationship.
I appreciated his wisdom and did agree with him in this regard. However, I cannot ignore God's judgement and chastisement either in this matter. I've done my best in this difficult situation to heed the words of our Lord with the current understanding He has bestowed upon me and by His Grace He will give me His blessing and continue to guide me in what I should do to make this right.
God bless,
Alex
octoberose:
Alex, if this thread has shown you anything it should remind you that you are not alone. Your God loves you enough to show you the Way, to be the Way, to correct you and discipline you because he loves you. And those of like minds and hearts hurt with you- even though it's easier for us to see where you have strayed from God's wisdom in your life.
I'm so sorry about the little girl who you have raised as your own. I'm so sorry her mother has rejected you and how painful that is. But, my friend, they were never yours to begin with. It is not just the ring and the paper you lack, it's the covenant.
You are going to come through this . You hold on. God hasn't left you, but He is molding you.
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