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Dave in Tenn:
"Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world."
"Fear not, for I have overcome the world.."
The 'giants' that I face are large, but they are not without weaknesses. Indeed, "poor vision" is the primary weakness.
Was David a shepherd without the will of the Father? Were the skills he learned and executed against bears and lions just co-incidence, not in the plan of God? Do the traits He has developed in us have nothing to do with faith? If not, then what good is 'learning righteousness'?
Are we supposed to 'fight' these giants with the same weapons and tactics that the Giants use?
Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
The weapons of OUR warfare are not carnal (like David's rocks and sling and the sword with which he eventually removed Goliath's head), and our 'fight' is not against flesh and blood. But it did me good to think about this story deeper than the surface. Thanks, Dennis.
I know that David had faith that day. First, he said as much. Then he put his body on the line. He also carried with him the knowledge that he would prevail. FAITH isn't blind. It's the EXPECTATION of things not seen.
Joel:
What I get out of this account of David, Saul, Goliath, and the two opposing armies is; David had just been anointed to become the next king after Saul.
This confrontation was a witness that David was in the process of becoming a great leader sanctioned of God to do just that.
David always gave God the glory for the things he had done for him in the past.
Saul had his day, and it was coming to a close in a bad way.
Not so sure that the description of Goliath's capabilities or lack there of are accurate. Were the lion, and bear old and toothless also?
The guy mentioned President Lincoln and his supposed condition. I heard that Lincoln was a crack shot with firearms, and was instrumental in getting better rifles for use in the union army.
Joel
santgem:
Bible is a big giant parable...
David who is a shepherd, a shepherd is parable.........
The Lord is my shepherd
So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone.
The stone is parable
The stone is the Word.........
Goliath is a warrior
A warrior lives by his sword
"O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness".........
The warrior was given a revelation by god
the warrior is the antichrist.............
and in due time will die by the Sword of the Word........
So whatever topic or areas that will pop-up here in the forum based on the Scripture, that will lead us all to the main character of the bible...........
Whether it is sin, antichrist, David, Goliath, satan, believers, unbelievers, parable, will lead us all to the main character of the scripture........
Bible is a big giant parable, your understanding maybe differ with mine, mine understanding may be differ from yours, what is important is to listen to every individual their understanding in as much as they are not violating the rules in the forum.
and may i ask a favor not to limit or tame the understanding of the believers as long as He/She not violates the rules in the forum..........
Thank you all!
zvezda:
--- Quote from: Kat on August 09, 2014, 08:35:50 AM ---
Interesting video, yes I can agree that David was a much more formidable foe with his sling than most realize, but I do not believe that Goliath was a feeble giant with very poor eyesight. It looks like Ted did not heed his own advise to pay attention to the words.
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I don't think the gaint had poor eyesight either. The speaker also said "Secondly, the Bible story makes special note of how slowly Goliath moves, another odd thing to say when you're describing the mightiest warrior known to man at that point" (from the transcript at https://www.ted.com/talks/malcolm_gladwell_the_unheard_story_of_david_and_goliath/transcript), I can't find where in bible does it say the giant moves slowly.
1 Samuel 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.
Not only did the giant see David, but also was able to see that David was a handsome young boy. Poor eyesight? Don't think so.
1 Samuel 17:16 And the Philistine drew near morning and evening, and presented himself forty days.
I wondered if the giant was so tired after going up and down the mountain for 40 days, hence it made him feeble when David arrived.
Dennis Vogel:
The premise of his talk is David was not the underdog (as taught by the church).
He may have gotten some facts wrong but I believe his premise is correct. David was not the underdog as popularly taught.
If anything David had the advantage with his sling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7oKRj-OUV4) and could not lose because Almighty God was with him.
We reference the story of David and Goliath all the time to describe how an individual (underdog) takes on big government, big business, etc. A near impossible situation. This is what comes to mind when we hear "David and Goliath."
The church teaches this was an impossible situation and young David was the underdog, but he prevailed.
But the exact opposite is true. David was not in an impossible situation. He had all the power to begin with.
Once more the church has it 180 degrees wrong.
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