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Regrets, resentment, and holding grudges
cjwood:
amen dave, amen.
claudia
Ian 155:
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Understanding the free-will thing has helped me reconcile a lot of heart ache from my past and made it easier to forgive all trespasses against me and also perpetrated by me.
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Sometimes the "well its OK God caused me to make certain choices" does not really wash with those affected.
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Hello Ian.
This can get really deep I suppose but I keep thinking about your statement and I disagree with how you phrase or coined it, I know ultimately God is the cause of all things but God does not make us make any choice.
We, that is, every human being makes their own choice without being forced to, its true that no human being can make an uncaused choice but we choose to do what we do because we like to do whatever we do because of who we are and what we are.
I think by saying God cause me to make a choice would be equal to saying God made me commit murder or God made me rape a women or God made me steal.
God creates all the circumstances but its we not God who makes the choice, God does not force us to do anything in that respect , we do it naturally from the nature of our own hearts.
God does not make of force any human being to sin not even Satan can make or force anyone to sin, when we hurt someone its us who are doing the hurting not God however it was Gods intention that we do it but its we not God who does it.
Does that make sense to you? :)
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Ray seemed to help me understand it a little better with his audio on sin,
Have you ever woken in the morning and said to yourself why did I do that ,say that ?
Some stuff is just unexplainable, likewise why did I not do this or that ...
There is stuff in you/us that you/we dont even know about...
"although we mean it for bad God uses it for good".....
Realisation/Conviction, does however refine one, eventually -
lareli:
Let me ask you all a question..
Is having regrets or resentments about anything in your past, whether perpetrated by you or perpetrated against you, is it an indictment against God subconsciously?
Seeing as how every single thing in your life was planned to happen in the exact way that it did happen down to the smallest movement of an atom.. It was planned by God to happen that way. So wouldn't the very nature of having a regret or resentment indicate a disdain for Gods plan for your life?
Again I'm not talking about repentance. I'm talking about looking back on your life and wishing certain things would've been different.
indianabob:
Largeli,
I think your regret stems from a natural human condition and need not be repented of. However the better way to focus our attention is to acknowledge that there were hard lessons that led to our present state and to look forward with true JOY to a time when we will have the God given strength of character to refrain from all acts that lead to regret in the age to come.
So after the lessons are learned and we are given, at our resurrection, the gift of full understanding we will then be at peace and have the joy that ONLY God can provide.
I- Bob
rick:
Hello Ian.
I’m going to listen to that audio on sin you had mentioned, at this point in my understanding I believe its totally impossible to be sin free, not going to happen in this life, I /we keep repeating our sins over and over.
It matters not how much we hate our sins or how much we wish we just didn’t do them. Its obvious to me God has no intentions of setting me /us free from sin during this age, maybe at most we may find we don’t sin as much but still the sin nature seems to reign no matter what.
I / we can learn righteousness but putting it into practice is impossible to do, I do put the blame on God in as much as He God made me /us as I /we are.
Everything I/we think, do, and say is a direct result of God’s intentions which no human being can resist, flee or even impede. It is God who sets up all the circumstances in my /our lives that cause me/ us to make a choice.
The choice I/we make are the very choices I/we God wanted or knew we would make seeing where God knows the ends from the beginnings.
After all this, the choice I/we make is our own choice........thank God the sin issue has been dealt with by Christ, perhaps the resentment or guilt I/ we feel inwardly stems from a lack of self forgiveness,
God forgives us but do we forgive ourselves? I think its two fold, Christ paid for mine/ our sins but the wages of sin is death, so Christ paid mine/ our penalty right there at the cross but we must still pay also by dying, for that is our penalty that we need to pay. :(
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