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John from Kentucky:
I knew you were a false teacher. I asked you for two Scriptures in support of your statement that the United States is the house of God. Of course, you could not produce them.
Below is something else Ray said. Do try and understand it.
TRUTH NUMBER 6
[A] "…that in the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES every word may be established" (Matt. 18:16).
"…In the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES shall every word be established" (II Cor. 13:1).
[C] "And I will give power unto my TWO WITNESSES…" (Rev. 11:3).
This particular law of Scripture is constantly violated. We are to have at least a second witness to establish a Scriptural truth or doctrine.
Unfortunately, the Church does not follow this truth of God in establishing doctrine. Truth be known, orthodoxy has not even one witness to support any of their doctrines! Example: The Scriptures tell us that man is "mortal," not "immortal." They teach that man’s soul is immortal. Where do they have a Scripture to support this claim? No Scripture—no witness. Where is their second witness to this claim? No second witness. They will not be encumbered with Scriptures to support their damnable heresies and lies.
God told Adam if he ate of the forbidden fruit he would die: "And the Lord God commanded…you shall surely die." (Gen. 2:17). Theologians teach that, "once we are born, we shall NEVER surely die." Say, doesn’t that sound like the very same thing the lying serpent told Eve? Check it out:
"And the serpent said unto the woman, ‘Ye shall NOT surely die"
Can we all agree that the phrase: "shall NOT SURELY die" is a contradiction of the phrase "SHALL SURELY die"?
Does the Church teach what God said or what the serpent said? Why would you prefer to believe what the serpent said rather than what God said? Am I going to fast for anyone?
So do souls actually die, or are they immortal? A "soul" in Hebrew is a "nephesh." Does the Church have "two witnesses" that souls do not die? They don’t have even one. Well then, do we have two witnesses that tell us plainly souls do die?
Yes we do:
"…the soul [Heb: ‘nephesh’] that sins, it [the soul, the ‘nephesh’] shall die. (Say, isn’t that exactly what God taught us back in Gen. 2:17? Of course). (Ezek. 18:4). Doesn’t this then contradict both the lie of Satan and the Church?
"The soul that sins, IT SHALL DIE" (Ezek. 18:20).
Jesus tells us in parable of two great witnesses:
"Then said He unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which brings forth out of his treasure, NEW AND OLD" (Matt. 13:52).
What "new and old" treasures do "scribes" preserve for us regarding the "kingdom of heaven?" Why the NEW Covenant Scriptures and the OLD Covenant Scriptures, of course. And both the Old (Deut. 17:6 & 19:15), and the New (II Cor. 13:1 & Matt. 18:16) command that we must have two witnesses to establish every Word of God.
I will keep this truth short, as it overlaps with the next spiritual truth # 7 which requires that we compare and match spiritual with spiritual.
The next time your pastor mentions "immortal souls," "Christians going to heaven," "Jesus being in hell for three days," "not all men will be saved," "Christian tithing," "consciousness in death," "resurrection of the body," "parables make the teaching clear," "man’s will being free and independent of God," and dozens of other such nonsense, ask him to give you two Scriptures to support each of his unscriptural heresies.
lareli:
Easy John.. No need for accusing someone of being a false teacher. Rick isn't bringing his own teaching, he is discussing what Ray wrote. This is a place for that isn't it? A place to discuss Rays writings and what we've learned from them?
Ray is the one who said that America is the Israel of God. You can disagree with it but if you think Ray was a false teacher then why are you here?
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: largeli on October 13, 2014, 12:01:12 PM ---Easy John.. No need for accusing someone of being a false teacher. Rick isn't bringing his own teaching, he is discussing what Ray wrote. This is a place for that isn't it? A place to discuss Rays writings and what we've learned from them?
Ray is the one who said that America is the Israel of God. You can disagree with it but if you think Ray was a false teacher then why are you here?
--- End quote ---
I am not accusing just stating a fact. A Scriptural Truth must be supported by at least two Scriptural witnesses.
In his first post, Rick stated that America and Europe were the house of God. Later, he stated this nation (United States) was the house of God. I asked for the two Scriptures in support of the statements made.
Neither he or you are able to provide the two witnesses. Thus, the statements are weighed in the balance and found wanting. As always, false teachers just squirm when their errors are pointed out. The Spirit of God cuts like a sharp sword, like fire, ouch!
P.S. If you guys truly are interested in knowing who are the Israel of God, see Galatians 6:16.
If you really want to know the Seed of Abraham and the true descendants of Abraham, then read intently Galatians chapter 3. The one that starts with, "O you dear idiots of Galatia" (Phillips translation). ;D
lareli:
I don't think Rays towers paper is categorized as 'scriptural truth' in the first place. I'd categorize it as 'prophetic interpretation'. So your accusations are misguided.
Again , Ray is the one who wrote that the Christian democracies of America and Europe are the Israel of God. Your accusation of 'false teacher' falls on THE TEACHER. Ray.
I don't believe Ray was a false teacher nor a false prophet.
lareli:
--- Quote from: Ricky on October 12, 2014, 07:45:32 AM ---I have a ?, How many people here on B.T. believe they are the elect?.
--- End quote ---
The nature of the ego would probably dictate that everyone thinks they're the elect. Everyone is right in his own eyes.
You know a tree by its fruit.
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