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144.000 ?
Mike Gagne:
? The number of those who are sealed , 144.000 , does LRay talk on this number? Is that the number of how many are the elect? Is this a literal number? Can numbers be symbols? If we can't add or take away would that make this number mean what it says 144.000? Can we get the truth of this number from the word?
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Mike Gagne on October 24, 2014, 11:01:00 PM --- ? The number of those who are sealed , 144.000 , does LRay talk on this number? Is that the number of how many are the elect? Is this a literal number? Can numbers be symbols? If we can't add or take away would that make this number mean what it says 144.000? Can we get the truth of this number from the word?
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Hey Mike,
This is not literal. Remember revelations was "SIGNIFIED" to John and that Christ's words are "SPIRIT."
Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"
John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
ryman:
If the number itself isn't literal, how else can it be used unlike words?
Like the lake of fire not being literal to physically torture or burn, we can still see the properties of fire.
But what about a number? If the amount itself doesn't matter than why not just say 5 or 6? What can a number not taken as a number represent? Another number? Words?
I agree though, why would it matter the number? If its just the elect it seems small, but that doesn't say much either. There's the other group that no one knows the number....seems like a different group.
Ian 155:
Numbers Im finding out are most important (everything in the word is)
Perhaps consider/ponder, 12 tribes forming all israel - 12x12=?
1Ki_18:31; Luk_22:30; Jam_1:1; Rev_7:4-8, Rev_21:12
12 stones,12 disciples,12 Pillars etc
indianabob:
144
Maybe this number is another of God's mysteries or spiritual secrets that God hold in His own mind until the time is right to reveal it. Then, after it is revealed it will make perfect sense. 1 Cor 2:10
It is there to tease us a little and teach patience...
Bob
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