Hi Farlsborough,
I have put together the places in the article where Ray had explained about who the "cherub" was or was not and put it in bold. I think having it put together like this can help you see what he was speaking about.
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ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIES IN ALL CHRISTENDOM
("How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer")
Theologians have been teaching for centuries now that Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 give us a perfect explanation of how a perfect Lucifer changed himself into Lucifer the Devil.
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The idea being taught today is that Satan is not a necessary part of God’s purpose, but is rather a fly in the ointment. In fact, it is taught that God never created Satan in the first place. That’s right, Satan supposedly created himself, or at least became Satan by himself. Wasn’t Satan once a bright and shining star, a light-bringer, the "anointed
cherub that covers?"
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"By the multitude of your merchandise they have filled the midst of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy you, O covering
cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty, you have corrupted your wisdom by reason of your brightness: I will cast you to the ground, I will lay you before kings, and they may behold you" (Ezek. 28:12-17).
This, we are told, is a perfect description of how perfect Lucifer, a shining light bringing archangel/
cherub, became Satan the Devil. Is there any truth to this theory? We will see.
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Babylon, the greatest kingdom of nations in the history of the world is COMING DOWN TO THE GRAVE! Just like Capernaum, Babylon was EXALTED TO HEAVEN, but is being brought down to HELL (the grave of death and destruction). And theologians and translators would try to deceive us into believing that all this is a statement about "How art thou fallen from heaven, O lucifer [firefly]." Does everything spoken of in these two chapters sound like it refers to some chubby
cherub (named firefly) who lost his chubby wings when he got kicked out of heaven?
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MAYBE THE PRINCE OF TYRUS IS SATAN
Ezekiel 28:12, "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus says the Lord God; You seal up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty."
Although theologians tell us that Ezekiel 28 also records the fall of Satan from a perfect
cherub, it is the king of Tyrus and not Satan who is being addressed in this lamentation. The fact that he was called full of wisdom and perfect in beauty by no means suggests that this is speaking of Satan. Perfect is used in a relative sense when not speaking of deity. God is merely shoving this in the kings face, as it was Tyrus who earlier attributed to herself this claim of perfect beauty, not God!
"Now, you son of man, take up a lamentation for Tyrus; And say unto Tyrus, O you that art situate at the entry of the sea, which are a merchant of the people for many isles, Thus says the Lord God; O Tyrus, YOU HAVE SAID I am of perfect beauty" (Ezek. 27:2-3).
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Verse 14: "…your pipes was prepared in you in the day that you were created. Thou art the anointed
cherub that covers; and I have set you so: you were upon the holy mountain of God; you have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."
Well, there it is! What further use of arguing? Surely this is not a human, but a
cherub. This verse clearly proves that this is speaking of Satan and not some human, doesn’t it? Wrong paleface! It proves no such thing. Actually it proves to be a very bad translation. Let’s notice a few variations:
"On the day you were created, I placed you beside the
kherubs on the sacred hill of God; you walked amid the flashing thunder-stones" (A New Translations by James Moffatt)
"In the day of your creation they established the anointed
cherub’s booth. And I bestow you in the holy mountain of Alueim [God]" (Concordant Version of the Old Testament)
"With an anointed
cherub as guardian I place you; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the stones of fire" (The New Revised Standard Version)
"With the
Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones" (The New American Bible)
Two things should be abundantly clear from these translations: (1) These verses are certainly a challenge to translate, and (2) The prince of
Tyrus was NOT the cherub, himself, but rather the
cherub was placed as a guardian BESIDE OR WITH the prince of Tyrus. A further proof that the prince of Tyrus cannot be, himself this
cherub, is found in the grammar. Where KJV translates, "Thou art the anointed
cherub…" the word translated "Thou" is the Hebrew word "ath" which can be either a pronoun or the object of a verb. But in Ezek. 28:14, it can’t be a pronoun because it is not the same gender as "
cherub." The Hebrew word ath is feminine while the Hebrew word kruwg translated
cherub, is masculine.
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"By the multitude of thy [king of Tyrus] merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O COVERING
CHERUB [??], from the midst of the stones of fire."
Wait just a minute. This is nonsense! God is going to destroy the king of Tyrus, not the SPIRIT
CHERUB! Spirits can’t be destroyed. WHY WOULD GOD DESTROY HIS
CHERUB WHEN IT IS THE KING THAT SINNED, NOT THE
CHERUB?
The king wasn’t the anointed
cherub, neither was Satan the anointed
cherub. Satan is nowhere mentioned in these Scriptures. There was iniquity found IN THE KING (Verse 15). It was THE KING that got rich by trading merchandise (Verse 16), not the
Cherub.
Cherubs don’t trade merchandise. God is casting THE KING out of His mountain (high position of government), not the
cherub. God will destroy THE KING (Verse 16), not the
cherub. God will bring to "ashes" THE KING, not the
cherub. Spirit creatures cannot be turned into ashes as human flesh can. And all the people that knew THE KING will see this happen to him. The people didn’t know the
cherub.
And finally we read this, "…and never shall you` be any more" ( Verse 19). Think how absurd it would be to say that Satan would "never be any more." Satan is still (27 centuries later) alive and well on planet Earth.
Well, there you have it. Satan was ALWAYS Satan. He was never an archangel
/cherub/light-bringing/Lucifer/firefly.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat