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Farlsborough:
I don't think there is space for being smug in our faith... Ray seemed to regularly (and rightly) have a sharp word for those who felt superior, smug, haughty etc. - "guilty of all!". And for those in mainstream churches who seem to want people to burn in hell for all eternity.

However, in one of his talks, he does allude to having received some kind of illumination of revelation about what the judgement of those who preach eternal torment will involve. I believe he says something like "wait until you discover what their punishment will be - it will blow you away!". He goes on to say that God's justice is perfect, and when we see the judgement people undergo our response will be "it's perfect - it cannot be improved upon!".

I'm curious as to whether he ever divulged this, in lecture or in written format - I think I've worked through pretty much all the teachings made available through this site, and don't remember coming across it. More out of curiosity than anything - because he mentions it in a way that seems like he is going to share it at a later time, I wonder if he did. I'd also be interested to know whether this was from scripture, or whether he just felt he had some kind of direct revelation about it.

indianabob:
Hi Farlsborough,

I don't have an answer from Ray's writings, but my view has long been that God will provide them with perfect recall through a vision of how their preaching affected the lives of everyone they taught from their less than perfect understanding.

Imagine being given a mind that understands the truth and then rehearsing over and over again all the lies and half-truths that you preached to trusting members of your congregation. The purpose being to make the preacher painfully aware of how much pain they caused and to acknowledge that ONLY a loving God could forgive them AND that they were actually forgiven too.

There will be much gnashing of teeth and then absolute relief when they finally realize that their sins are forgiven just as much as those of anyone else.
First the knowledge of sins made clear and then the revelation of full forgiveness from a loving God and Christ.

Indiana Bob

Extol:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,14674.msg129779.html#msg129779

lilitalienboi16:

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Spot on Jesse, I am in agreement on their fear of being condemned to eternal punishment. Don't necessarily see the rapist being in fear of of being raped but maybe! Nevertheless, very good post about Joseph and his brothers.

God bless,
Alex

indianabob:
Dear Alex and Jesse,
The main thrust of God's plan of redemption is to overcome evil with love.
When Lord Jesus is ruling on the earth righteousness must prevail.
When God says "vengeance is mine" it does not mean that God wants or prefers to administer vengeance. It just means that vengeance is NOT for us to administer.
Whatever "correction" is meted out must be from sincere love of the sinner.

Indiana Bob




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Spot on Jesse, I am in agreement on their fear of being condemned to eternal punishment. Don't necessarily see the rapist being in fear of of being raped but maybe! Nevertheless, very good post about Joseph and his brothers.

God bless,
Alex

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