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John from Kentucky:

--- Quote from: thewatchman on November 19, 2014, 06:31:51 PM ---All sin deserves judgement, including misrepresenting God's word. But maybe the revelation hasn't been given to them yet and that is in the hands of God, who opens our eyes. Things are rarely black and white and we do not have the character of God within that will allow us to judge righteously. So we should concentrate on what we have influence on, which is ourself. And be grateful that God has chosen to open our eyes.  8)

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Actually, we do not have any influence on ourselves.  The Scriptures tell us, "There are none righteous, no not one."  And again, "All have sinned."  We were programmed to sin.  It is natural in us.

It is God Who works in us both to will and to do.  If there is any goodness in us, any blessing, it is all by the grace of God.  To God and God alone is all praise and thankfulness due.

rick:
What I’ve learned from Ray’s papers apposed to what my understanding was before I was lead to B.T. is like the difference between night and day.

Before I was lead to B.T. my belief and understanding about God was that God was more about condemnation and eternal punishment.

My understanding of Ray’s papers  tell me quite the opposite. Christ did not die in vain for any human being regardless of whatever sins they have committed. ( Christ will save all )

Its not about punishment but learning righteousness, God has not made us in vanity in vain.
Unless I totally misunderstood Ray’s papers, the whole of God’s plans for the human race is to be making us in His image which require and experience of good and evil to humble us by.

I wonder if God is going to give us a new heart or is He making within us a new heart by destroying our carnality by purging us with His cleansing fire.

God is Love, God is trustworthy and God is going to save all in whatever manor He chooses to save All His creation. How God saves all matters not nearly as much as the outcome which is no longer being made but are made in the image of our creator. How beautiful is that.  :)

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