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"of" or "in"?
jojoross:
Yello all,
In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith OF Him"(Eph. 3:12).
"Even the righteousness OF God which is by faith OF Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe" (Rom. 3:22).
"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith OF Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified" (Gal. 2:;16).
"But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith OF Jesus Christ might be given
to them that believe" (Gal. 3:22).
It looks like the kjv and some others put "OF" and the newer and more popular translations (niv, nabs, etc.) have "IN". I am trying to find the greek translations but not finding any luck. I mean these two words can change a truth here. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
God's peace,
Jordan
Dennis Vogel:
I just heard an audio of Ray's that explains this (cannot remember which one).
Try searching the transcripts and you should be able to find the audio.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: JoJoRoss on January 03, 2015, 05:41:39 PM ---Yello all,
In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith OF Him"(Eph. 3:12).
"Even the righteousness OF God which is by faith OF Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe" (Rom. 3:22).
"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith OF Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified" (Gal. 2:;16).
"But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith OF Jesus Christ might be given
to them that believe" (Gal. 3:22).
It looks like the kjv and some others put "OF" and the newer and more popular translations (niv, nabs, etc.) have "IN". I am trying to find the greek translations but not finding any luck. I mean these two words can change a truth here. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
God's peace,
Jordan
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Hi Jordan, It is most definitely the faith OF Jesus Christ which leads to being IN Jesus Christ. Here are some added witnesses on the matter, let me know if they help:
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that ['faith'] not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Hebrews 13:20-21 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
1 Corinthians 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?
God bless,
Alex
Rene:
Hi Jordan,
In the "Why God Loves You" paper, Ray briefly discussed the "faith of" and not "faith in" Christ. Using the KJV translation of Gal. 2:20, Ray inserted an explanation which is in BOLD below.
http://bible-truths.com/WhyGodLovesYou.htm
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; YET NOT I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of [faith 'of,' not faith 'in' -- it is Christ's faith in us, not our faith in Him that saves us. It does not become "our faith" until God gives it to us. It is a gift.] the Son of God, who loved me, and gave Himself for me" (Gal. 2:20).
lilitalienboi16:
Don't forget James!
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Faith is a gift! :)
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