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Is your faith challenged when you hear about UFO’s
Rhys 🕊:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3621.msg27085.html#msg27085
Hi Ray, I stumbled upon your website and have spent the last couple of days
> glued to it as it's interesting stuff. In reply to someones email concerning
> aliens/UFO's you made this statement.
>
> "There are no alien beings that live on planets and have perfected
> interstellar space travel."
>
> Can you quote any scripture to prove this? If not, what is this statement
> based on?
>
> Thanks Azza.
Dear Azza:
The statement is based on science/astronomy, and the Scriptures.
Jesus died for the sins of the "world," not the sins of the "universe."
Eve is the "mother of all living," etc., etc., etc.
I should think that all people know that interstellar space travel is
physically impossible. Even traveling at millions of miles an hour,
there are very few places that one could go in less than a thousand years!
Everything is TOO FAR AWAY.
God be with you,
Ray
Dave in Tenn:
My "faith" in the ability of the human mind to make some sense of the unexpected and the unfamiliar would not be challenged. There has NEVER been an instance of unquestioned evidence of craft from other worlds visiting the earth. There HAVE BEEN many instances of hoaxes, doctored footage, and incorrect assumptions concerning explainable phenomenon. There have also been many instances of phenomenon yet unexplained. That doesn't mean that the 'explanation' must therefor be of alien visitation.
IF a spacecraft from a world other than the earth ever did appear (something I never expect to have happen), then my "faith" would absorb it, like it has every other new 'thing' I've learned in my life. It would absorb it with some difficulty (more or less difficulty, depending on what other knowledge came bundled with that event). But my "faith" has absorbed things more fantastic and unbelievable than that before, and has only grown. Grown to a point it barely resembles the "faith" of my childhood.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Rick on February 26, 2015, 04:16:06 PM ---
I believe the answers to the alien deception can be found in the book of Genesis.
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
These Nephilim are not of the line of Adam and Eve but I do believe these ancient people and their civilization can explain the alien phenomenon. ;)
--- End quote ---
Ray wrote a bit on this topic, and his conclusion is not yours. You assume these Nephilim (giants, great men) were not of the line of Adam and Eve? Why do you assume that? Because they are not in the 'geneology' presented in scripture? Do you have any idea how many people are left out of your OWN genealogy if you trace only back through your paternal line?
You make a very flimsy assumption here based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever, except that if fits your world-view. Once again, my "faith" is not challenged.
Is your "faith" challenged by anything we've said?
Kat:
Hi Rick,
We have talked about the Nephilim many times... you seem to be saying that these are some other ancient civilization that was before Adam and Eve had greater knowledge than they did? I could not disagree more, if that is what you are hinting at. Those people had not even learned to till the ground (Gen 2:5), it was Adam and Eve whom God brought along and gave knowledge to really push the world into a 'civilized' state.
Now there is a "prince/ruler of the air," and "ruler of this world" (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11), and this one and his many demon allies are capable and I believe are responsible for all these visions and delusions of UFOs.
Eph 2:2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on February 26, 2015, 06:53:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on February 26, 2015, 04:16:06 PM ---
I believe the answers to the alien deception can be found in the book of Genesis.
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
These Nephilim are not of the line of Adam and Eve but I do believe these ancient people and their civilization can explain the alien phenomenon. ;)
--- End quote ---
You assume these Nephilim (giants, great men) were not of the line of Adam and Eve? Why do you assume that? Because they are not in the 'geneology' presented in scripture? Do you have any idea how many people are left out of your OWN genealogy if you trace only back through your paternal line?
--- End quote ---
Hi Dave,
we can all trace our accessory back to Noah and his sons
Gen 6:7 And Jehovah said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the ground; both man, and beast, and creeping things, and birds of the heavens; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
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