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cheekie3:
All -

I keep wondering about the time when Our Father through Wisdom Birthed Christ and then gave Jesus All that He had.

Was it an instant download and then Jesus had All that Our Father had.

Or was it a process over a very long period of time.

How did Jesus learn and understand about The Majesty and Glory of Our Father.

Our Father must have taught Jesus about Righteousness and the Fruit of His Spirit - and the knowledge of Good and Evil.

Could Jesus have grasped and understood the differences between Good and Evil without experiencing these Himself.

We learn and experience Good and Evil.

We who are now dragged by Our Father to the knowledge of The Truth, then learn and experience the Called and The Chosen Elect.

Jesus then starts to Unveil or Unfold Our Father to us, as our hearts desire is to get to know Our Heavenly Father more and more - and to continually please Him.

Yet all this is not directly with Our Father but always through Jesus.

What do Our Father and Our Lord Jesus Christ now do - as they are both Perfect.

They Both continuously pour out their Loving Kindness upon Humanity - on both the Wicked and the Righteous (in Christ) - yet most of Humanity remain in total darkness for most of their alloted life experience - although all of us have known and seen Evil upon us Framed and Restricted - with the majority of us unaware that this is being Sovereignly Managed by Our Saviour.

When we will All be like Jesus Christ - will we be in the Bosom of Our Father; and see Our Father as He Truly is in His Glory and Majesty and still Live - like Jesus does now.

George.

rick:
Hi George,

We know Christ became obedient through suffering so I’m only assuming by His suffering that His understanding took time.

I believe in all of God’s creation all things start from the ground up so to speak.

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: Rick on March 08, 2015, 07:56:16 AM ---Hi George,

We know Christ became obedient through suffering so I’m only assuming by His suffering that His understanding took time.

I believe in all of God’s creation all things start from the ground up so to speak.

--- End quote ---

Maybe I'm missing something?

For Christ to 'become' obedient implies He was not obedient at some time.

indianabob:
Perhaps this will explain a little.

Hebrews 5:8
7 In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. 8 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. 9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,…


Philippians 2:8
And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death-- even death on a cross!

So then Jesus apparently "became" obedient through a series of trials in his flesh. Trials that he had not experienced before and that perhaps were provided to demonstrate to the human race that Father God understands that we need a sign to convict us, especially prior to our conversion.

This is a hard topic to grasp fully and I solicit comments from those better versed in scripture.

Indianabob






--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on March 08, 2015, 11:57:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on March 08, 2015, 07:56:16 AM ---Hi George,

We know Christ became obedient through suffering so I’m only assuming by His suffering that His understanding took time.

I believe in all of God’s creation all things start from the ground up so to speak.

--- End quote ---

Maybe I'm missing something?

For Christ to 'become' obedient implies He was not obedient at some time.

--- End quote ---

Dennis Vogel:
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

IMO, this proves Christ was never disobedient.

So Christ was tempted and learned obedience, all without sinning.

Tough act to follow.

We are tempted, we fail, are disobedient and sin, and we lean little. And on and on ...

Still a little sketchy. Christ suffered consequences for sins He did not commit. But somehow learned obedience.

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