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lilitalienboi16:
Hey everyone,
So I'm posting this because there has been a lot of controversy in the news about the religious of freedom bills passed in Indiana and its being said that it gives business the right to discriminate against gay people.
In CNN, they interviewed florists who were southern Baptist Christians who stated that they would not serve flowers for a gay wedding. CNN did its best to make those florists seem like crazy people but its got me really thinking about the issue.
Now I don't care about the politics of it, should gay people be allowed the right ot marry etc...etc... because God is going to do with this country as He has planned and so I don't try and go against it or influence its course. I Just try and live Godly by what little God gives me to understand Him.
So my question is, is it wrong to attend a gay wedding? To partake in it in anyway? Lets say I was a florist and a gay couple asked me to set up the flowers at their wedding? What do I do? Do I attend and participate in the setting up of the wedding? I don't know... now im studying to be a doctor so I personally won't have this specific problem and I have no problem treating gay patients but what if I'm asked to CELEBRATE their LIFESTYLE and JOINING when God clearly makes it out to be an abomination?
I mean.. we all sin, we all fall short, and we shouldn't be phony and I'm not trying to be "holier than thou", but I'm honestly wondering, is it blasphemy to CELEBRATE a union of two people (the wedding ceremony) when that type of lifestyle is an abomination to God? Would it not be like, in certain ways, partaking in a celebration for a pagan god? Something Isreal was guilty of in the OT ad naseum before God sent them away in captivity for their wickedness and abominations. No sin should be celebrated and as far as I understand, a wedding ceremony is the celebration of a joining for two people.
So what say my brothers and sisters in Christ?
To re-iterate, I have no problem with gay people having marriage rights, being married, whatever, they do as they wish. God will sort them out and God Is doing what He has planned, its not my place to tell Him otherwise. Also, I'm working on me and my issues because Lord knows I've got a TON. I'm not better than they because I know in my flesh dwells no good thing. I know its God's mercy and grace that brings any of us near to God and that we are His workmaship. I have no problem interacting with gay people or one day treating them as a physician, but what if I'm asked to go to a gay wedding or I'm forced by a law to partake in a gay wedding (like these florists might one day have to do) or be fined/jailed?
Wouldn't my participating in such an event be my endorsing of such lifestyle and behaviors which I know are clearly wrong? I'm not picking on gay marriage either, no sin should be celebrated. Like I said, it reminds me of Isreal celebrating and worshiping pagan gods.
I'm praying on the issue but I thought i'd bring it up here and see what wisdom my brothers and sisters in Christ might have on this specific matter.
God bless,
Alex
rick:
Hi Alex,
I remember reading something that Ray said which is, homosexuality is a sin just like any other sin . If I were a florist and a gay couple were seeking to purchase flowers from me I would sell them flowers.
If I considered gay people my enemy, God says love your enemy. We are all sinners like you said so if I only sell flowers to the righteous people in this life then I could only sell to Gods elect .
Guess I would go out of the flower business. Judge not and you wont be judged .
We must not forget what this life is about, when in doubt, walk in love and where there is no doubt walk in love because perfect love cast out all fears. :)
Craig:
Alex, You are hoping to be a doctor. If a gay couple come in seeking treatment will you deny them? If a murderer comes needing you to save their life will you let them die? If, if, if.
I know your question really had to do with celebrating an occasion that you believe is sinful, to that I answer do what you feel comfortable doing. What other occasions do you celebrate that are sinful? What occasions do you celebrate that others believe are sinful?
Religion all marches to the same drum. At first its followers believe they have become enlightened, it is they that only understand god and then they become pious, eventually if there is a large enough following they rule over the lives of the believers and then eventually they attempt to rule over the lives of all. Lording over the lives of all lead to murder and evil deeds, done in the name of their religion because god is on their side. It always becomes a battle of us versus them. There is always a special place for the "true believers", whether it is twenty virgins or a certain number of crowns or a special place, reward etc.
If God is the savior of all, then He will save all. To make a claim that I know how or why He does what He does, when He will do what He will do, stinks of religion. I say live your life, try to do good and realize there is no good unless God works through you to do good. If good is in you what good is it if you separate from those who need to see the goodness?
What happens throughout the world is all in God's plan, if we really believe this then we should be satisfied to live our lives, ask for God to use us as His vessel of light and leave it to Him to sort out everthing else.
Craig
Extol:
Personally, I would not go to one of them. That is not to say I am better than them, or afraid of them. They're people just like me. We each have our faults. But I don't want to celebrate sin.
A large number of homosexual folks come to my place of business. I have no problem doing business with them; most of them are kind-hearted people and are nice to talk to. To refuse service to somebody because of his/her sexuality would be the height of hypocrisy, because--as with many men--lust and adultery of the heart are the sins to which I most easily give in.
But there is a big difference between accepting someone with faults and celebrating those faults--even if society says they are not really faults. We don't have to define the person by his/her sexuality, as people have done in the past. There is more to them than sex. I don't mind selling to gay people, buying from them, playing tennis with them, talking sports with them...they are people with a variety of interests, and I don't think I condone homosexuality by playing tennis with a gay man. Invite me to play tennis, and sure, I'll be glad to join. Playing tennis doesn't have anything to do with your sexual preferences. Marrying another man does, and I'd rather not join that party.
And no, I don't feel "holier-than-thou" by refusing to attend. I'm not going to invite all the gay men over for a party next time I look at a woman to lust after her.
lareli:
Alex and Extol, what if your son was the one getting married?
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