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octoberose:
--- Quote from: largeli on April 03, 2015, 01:00:55 PM ---Alex and Extol, what if your son was the one getting married?
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When our children become our God then we have a real problem.
Dave in Tenn:
If you can show me one instance where Jesus "upbraided" run-of-the-mill sinners (not religious leaders), I'll consider upbraiding them. I'm not quite sure how to do that, since I don't preach 'fags burn in hell', but scripture tells me to answer questions. There's too much left out of this 'scenario' for my comfort in answering what I would do without qualification.
There are a lot of sins "worthy of death". But Paul had more to say about this than as a prosecuting attorney. We see what we see, however, and act accordingly. The High Priest who is not untouched by our many temptations sets things right. If He needs my help, He will set the circumstance in place where I will be there to do so. Everything else is also "un-scriptural". I'm not required to judge those "outside". And I'm not required to tirelessly "preach" to anybody until they "see the light" or kill me. There is a reason why we are told to speak to a brother in certain ways and not more than two or three times...and it has little or nothing to do with the BROTHER, and more to do with "US" why this is so, I think.
BUT...let everyone be convinced in their own mind. I've actually never been to ANY wedding that I "believed" was my "participation" in their union. I've gone because I was invited, or because (on one or two occasions) I was in the wedding 'party' and they rented me a tux. I just don't think I'm all that important, I guess. All I've considered NOT doing was hanging around for the honeymoon. I think I'd keep the same restriction in any case like this.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: octoberose on April 04, 2015, 12:01:48 AM ---I don't really like being disrespectful, but have some of you taken leave of your good sense?
What did Jesus say ?
Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
God has NOT brought two men or two women together. How can any of you stand by and act as a witness to it?
As you all know, I have a 'gay' son. I would lay down my life for him but I will Never go to a same sex "wedding". And by the way , the United States can call it marriage all they want but it is not marriage - it is plain fornication.
Love your enemies . Lay down your life for those in sin as your savior did. But don't join them in their celebration of sin!
I believe this is happening now because we are coming closer to the Day when Jesus returns. The Bible starts with creation and then setting up male and female identity. It is not a surprise that we are violating the very core of our being.
Is the very elect of God becoming "Americanized" in their view of homosexuality? Well, sadly some have.
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Dear Rose,
Thank you for your input, especially as one who is so closely affected by this issue. As I said, I too do not feel right celebrating what God has condemned. Its why I started this whole thread in the first place and I feel the same now. If anything, this thread and its responses have moved me to better understand why I felt the way I did.
Now these things may very well be happening in America for the reason you mention. Other recent threads lead me to believe that our Father is moving us to a greater understanding of Him. Some things like the Enigma of God may be things that have long been hidden now but are being revealed again once more. Perhaps for good reason too.
I think you and Neo are both making the same point as well, though Neo a bit stronger in tone, that "gay marriage" isn't marriage at all as far as God and the Word are concerned.
I agree too that when our children become our God then we have a serious problem.
God bless,
Alex
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on April 04, 2015, 12:53:43 AM ---If you can show me one instance where Jesus "upbraided" run-of-the-mill sinners (not religious leaders), I'll consider upbraiding them. I'm not quite sure how to do that, since I don't preach 'fags burn in hell', but scripture tells me to answer questions. There's too much left out of this 'scenario' for my comfort in answering what I would do without qualification.
There are a lot of sins "worthy of death". But Paul had more to say about this than as a prosecuting attorney. We see what we see, however, and act accordingly. The High Priest who is not untouched by our many temptations sets things right. If He needs my help, He will set the circumstance in place where I will be there to do so. Everything else is also "un-scriptural". I'm not required to judge those "outside". And I'm not required to tirelessly "preach" to anybody until they "see the light" or kill me. There is a reason why we are told to speak to a brother in certain ways and not more than two or three times...and it has little or nothing to do with the BROTHER, and more to do with "US" why this is so, I think.
BUT...let everyone be convinced in their own mind. I've actually never been to ANY wedding that I "believed" was my "participation" in their union. I've gone because I was invited, or because (on one or two occasions) I was in the wedding 'party' and they rented me a tux. I just don't think I'm all that important, I guess. All I've considered NOT doing was hanging around for the honeymoon. I think I'd keep the same restriction in any case like this.
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Good point too Dave.
I don't think any of us here will ever be invited to a gay wedding so lets all remember this was just a hypothetical what if... because I knew how I felt about gay marriage and those who are gay but I didn't know what I would do in regards to attending one and what that would mean if I did attend.
While you may not personally have had any opinion on the bride and groom, most people that attend a marriage are there to show their support. At least... that's my understanding. Personally I can't remember the last time I was at a wedding, I think I was too young to remember so I can't say there was much of an issue conscience wise.
So now this discussion has opened my eyes to why I felt as I did and why its good to seek the perspectives of those like minded. It helps me "try the spirits," including those that like to move my thoughts this way and that way.
God bless,
Alex
Dave in Tenn:
I didn't say I had no opinion of the brides and grooms. They invited me to their wedding, after all, and I went because I either loved them or liked them well enough to carve out a bit of time for them. I said I didn't feel like *I* was important or "participating" in anything other than a wedding ceremony. It would have happened without me, and as Abraham Lincoln said at Gettysburg, it is not within my poor powers to "consecrate" anything.
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