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I discovered it was all in vain.
rick:
--- Quote from: octoberose on May 27, 2015, 12:44:49 AM ---
Rick, you said in your first post " and the number of God’s elect is 144,000 " . It is not your understanding that is a literal number, is it? Ray taught all those numbers signified something else. just hoped you could clarify.
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Hello Octoberose,
I know the book of Revelation is a book of signs and symbols and that the 144,000 is not a literal
number. My friend mentioned 144,000 earlier in the conversation so I used 144,000 to point out that he was suggesting that of all the people who were, are and will be with the exception of the 144,000 are lost , condemn to eternal damnation.
So in his understanding God can only save 144,000 and the rest won’t make it not realizing more people will be saved after death than before death which will be in the great fall harvest.
indianabob:
Octoberose and Rick,
Have you noticed that people of all the tribes were listed EXCEPT for the tribe of DAN.
Why make that exception?
What other differences from the original children of (Jacob) Israel and why?
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
octoberose:
Thanks for pointing out something I didn't know Indiana ! :)
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