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lareli:
Wow..
Evil isnt sin.. That right there is it I believe. That is meat to chew on... And savor. What a revelation.
Thanks for the e-sword and blue letter bible links too.
John from Kentucky:
God does not do evil. He created evil. But evil is not His way.
Satan is the primary agent of evil. That is why God created him. To be the destroyer.
In the Book of Job, we learn it was Satan who used a wind storm to kill Job's 10 children. Which is why Satan is called the prince of the power of the air. Satan is the god of this world. Weather events that kill come from Satan, as do wars and killing and sickness and disease. It was Satan that caused Job's sickness.
God sets the bounds of evil and Satan, or things would be much, much worse if Satan were left to himself.
A sovereign God is responsible for all and will in the end destroy evil and bring about total good.
Jesus was a sin offering and made an atonement for what mankind has suffered by dying the death by torture. Jesus was Antipas, the faithful witness, Who came on behalf of the Father. He will save all.
As for the Amalekites, they were not wiped out by the Israelites. It was an Amalekite that killed King Saul. If they had been wiped out, then how could one kill the King? Am I going too fast for anyone?
Unfortunately for the Israelites, they did not destroy the Amalekites and the other sinful peoples in the promised land.
These people led the Israelites to follow their pagan practices, which included the sacrifice of babies.
The Amalekites were to have their babies killed because they killed babies. Just like the Egyptians had their first born killed because they killed the babies of others. Justice. God deals with people at the level they understand and how they do to others. This understanding comes from thinking about God's ways as guided by the Spirit.
By not following God's commands, the Israelites brought down the judgment of God upon themselves for the evil practices they learned from the other people in the land.
But be it known, the Great God is not evil and does not do evil, but God turns evil to good....in the appointed times.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on May 29, 2015, 12:30:56 PM ---God does not do evil. He created evil. But evil is not His way.
Satan is the primary agent of evil. That is why God created him. To be the destroyer.
In the Book of Job, we learn it was Satan who used a wind storm to kill Job's 10 children. Which is why Satan is called the prince of the power of the air. Satan is the god of this world. Weather events that kill come from Satan, as do wars and killing and sickness and disease. It was Satan that caused Job's sickness.
God sets the bounds of evil and Satan, or things would be much, much worse if Satan were left to himself.
A sovereign God is responsible for all and will in the end destroy evil and bring about total good.
Jesus was a sin offering and made an atonement for what mankind has suffered by dying the death by torture. Jesus was Antipas, the faithful witness, Who came on behalf of the Father. He will save all.
As for the Amalekites, they were not wiped out by the Israelites. It was an Amalekite that killed King Saul. If they had been wiped out, then how could one kill the King? Am I going too fast for anyone?
Unfortunately for the Israelites, they did not destroy the Amalekites and the other sinful peoples in the promised land.
These people led the Israelites to follow their pagan practices, which included the sacrifice of babies.
The Amalekites were to have their babies killed because they killed babies. Just like the Egyptians had their first born killed because they killed the babies of others. Justice. God deals with people at the level they understand and how they do to others. This understanding comes from thinking about God's ways as guided by the Spirit.
By not following God's commands, the Israelites brought down the judgment of God upon themselves for the evil practices they learned from the other people in the land.
But be it known, the Great God is not evil and does not do evil, but God turns evil to good....in the appointed times.
--- End quote ---
Very nicely put John. Thank you. I think that wraps it all up pretty well!
lilitalienboi16:
Found the email where Ray say's evil isn't sin
------------------------------------------- http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,13677.msg120247.html#msg120247
Dear Alex: I am afraid you are confusing "evil" with "sin." They are certainly not one and the same thing.
I can tell from your wording that you feel that evil is a bad thing when you say: "I know this sounds probably
blasphemous to even think that Evil went through Christ..." As I have stated in my Lake of Fire series, evil
has no moral bias. There is nothing sinful about evil in and by itself. Evil (ra in the Hebrew) means to crush
or break into pieces. And God uses evil for many good purposes. Evil only becomes a sin when men use
it for wrong purposes. In the same way, God created "darkness." There is nothing inherently evil or sinful
about darkness, even though it may not be a pleasant thing. Hope his helps your understanding.
God be with you,
Ray
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God bless,
Alex
DEJI:
permit me to contribute my token here, as to the specific question of whether the Isrealites were guilty of murder by killing the babies. I don't think God will hold the murder of the babies against the Isrealites because they didn't kill the babies out of a pure thirst for blood but did kill the babies on the God's express orders.
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