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Evil Spirits
Gina:
So, by the power of the [ s ]word of God, I have been given the ability to utterly demolish any and all arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and I have taken every thought captive to obey Christ, that anything out there can make you, or me or anyone else doubt.
Acts 5:
33 When they heard this, they were enraged and wanted to kill them.
34 But a Pharisee in the council named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law held in honor by all the people, stood up and gave orders to put the men outside for a little while.
35 And he said to them, “Men of Israel, take care what you are about to do with these men.
36 For before these days Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined him. He was killed, and all who followed him were dispersed and came to nothing.
37 After him Judas the Galilean rose up in the days of the census and drew away some of the people after him. He too perished, and all who followed him were scattered.
38 So in the present case I tell you, keep away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or this undertaking is of man, it will fail;
39 but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!”
If what you have learned is from God, you can doubt all you want, but won't be able to overthrow it.
By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" ... For Isaiah says, Lord, who has believed our report?
And just to sum up:
Perseverance in Temptation
13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.
14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his/her own lust.
1 What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you?
2 You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have, because you do not ask.
3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions.
4 You adulterous people!c Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
5 Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?
6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
9 Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom.
10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.
I like the lyrics to this song by Sheryl Crow:
Something is happening
Everything's different but everything is fine, yea
This is the good stuff
Yesterday's only what you leave behind
It's only in your mind
No use pretending
You never existed until you saw the light, yea
Oh you're just beginning
You haven't missed it, it's all ahead of you
And you know what to do
You gotta talk to the One Who made you
Talk to the One who understands
Talk to the One who gave you
All the light in your eyes
Here comes the world
And she is beautifully mysterious
She's got it all and you say
"Give it to me" <----- (bad call, ha ha!)
Nobody's happy
That's not the world I know inside
Where everybody hides
You gotta talk to the One Who loves you
Talk to the One who understands
...
rick:
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on June 07, 2015, 12:50:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: gk@rivervalley on June 06, 2015, 09:40:48 AM ---I know Ray has spoken on this before but I fail to understand completely. In some instances he speaks of evil spirits as 'false doctrine' whereas in scripture evil spirits have indeed 'haunted' (for lack of better) and have possessed humans. What is an evil spirit? Were they created (purposed) and exist to cause harm, aggravation and plunder to the human population, and, do you think that type of activity is prevalent today? In Job's events it appears they(?) may can cause events leading to death. Scripture states only God knows the day of death of a person but that doesn't necessarily exclude the use of external influence, perhaps an evil spirit, to aid in the death of a human. Since all 'events under the sun' are purposed by God are they acting on the will of god? If so, what possible 'good' could be the outcome of such entities and their activities? Humans are created depraved in the heart and mind and as such we are, or can be, equally motivated to carry out evil. So why the aid of evil spirits....demons....if so? Are there differences in evil spirit -verses- demon?
Lot's of general specifics I suppose and I'm certain this is all elementary to you folk, but, I can gain as maybe others will also.
gk
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An evil Spirit is unseen... I believe its main function is to oppose or exult itself above God by manipulating our thoughts or our understanding.
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Hi Ian,
According to my understanding from Ray’s writings is that Satan is the waster, created for the purpose of bringing temptations in our lives, I know the story from Christendom how they once led me to believe Satan was this arch angle who exult himself above God which is not the truth at all.
Satan was created Satan, a murder and a liar from the beginning and will remain so until he emerges from the lake of fire.
Why do you believe these evil spirits oppose God or exult themselves above God ? They would have to be capable of free will to do either or and we know free will is only a myth that doesn’t
hold water.
When I think about the angles that kept not their first estate I think what caused them to give up their first estate? God is the originator of ALL causes and all causes are according to His pleasure and purpose according to His counsel.
Im sorry Ian, your statement comes straight out of Christendom’s false doctrine of theology. Satan can only do what is given him to do from above and nothing more or even for that matter nothing less either.
Satan has his job to do given him by our creator and the creator will make sure Satan does his job well because our being made in the image of God depends on Satan doing his job well.
Mike Gagne:
Is evil a bad thing? No its not, it is a tool in the hand of Jesus!
Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
As Kat had stated with scripture that God has given man a experience of evil to humble him.
gk, your question; Where is the truth?...where is our 'defense' mechanism and how do we, as mere 'weak' humans, trigger our defense to gain a foot-hold in what seems a losing battle in the front?
Where is the truth? Jesus is the truth, His word is truth. It is not a battle of good and evil, it is the knowledge of good and evil. Kat gave you scriptures Eph 6:10 -18 put on the whole armour of God! Jesus is the whole armour of God, Jesus is the truth and the truth will set you free!
rick:
--- Quote from: Michael G on June 07, 2015, 12:58:28 PM ---Is evil a bad thing? No its not, it is a tool in the hand of Jesus!
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Hi Mike,
Although evil is a tool used in the hand of God to humble us, its not a good thing . One day evil will be abolished . It is a evil thing to commit murder or to abuse animals or to steal so on and so forth.
Mike Gagne:
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--- Quote from: Michael G on June 07, 2015, 12:58:28 PM ---Is evil a bad thing? No its not, it is a tool in the hand of Jesus!
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Hi Mike,
Although evil is a tool used in the hand of God to humble us, its not a good thing . One day evil will be abolished . It is a evil thing to commit murder or to abuse animals or to steal so on and so forth.
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Hi Rick
Its a tool Rick, its a good tool in the hands of God to produce Sons. If evil is a bad thing then why did God create it? Back to what was stated, a experience of evil God gave to man to humble him!
Eze 6:10 And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that I would do this evil unto them.
Ezekiel 14:22-23 (KJV)
22 Yet, behold, therein shall be left a remnant that shall be brought forth, both sons and daughters: behold, they shall come forth unto you, and ye shall see their way and their doings: and ye shall be comforted concerning the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, even concerning all that I have brought upon it.
23 And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord GOD.
Evil has its purpose Rick and it shall all pass through the Fire...
Rick I never said it was good for men to do evil.
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