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Ian 155:
--- Quote from: AwesomeSavior on June 26, 2015, 01:27:16 PM ---Anyone else think the wrath of God is coming soon upon America for this perversion ruling by the Supreme Court? I'm prepping for another massive economic collapse like 2008, except I think it's going to be much worse this time.
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clv
Rom 1:18 For God's indignation is being revealed from heaven on all the irreverence and injustice of men who are retaining the truth in injustice,
drb
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice:
i think the lying charlatan "pastors" have more to fear than confused "men" who cant help themselves ...
this stuff MUST happen ... even lying pastors
Kat:
This age will continue to have perversions of every kind, debauchery, famine with starvation, wars and nations rise up and they collapse and this will continue right up to the end.
Ecc 1:9 That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun.
I remember when in WWG how much they warned us to "watch" world events, so that when the 10 nations formed (10 toes of the great image in Nebuchadnezzar dream) we would know that Christ return was near, after the 3 1/2 years of great tribulation. Is that really what Christ meant by "watch"? Do we still believe as the church taught we are to keep up with the goings on of the world so we won't be caught off guard?
Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts are weighed down with headaches and drinking and anxieties of this life; and that day should suddenly come on you;
v. 35 for it shall come as a snare on all those sitting on the face of the whole earth.
v. 36 Watch therefore, praying in every season that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things which shall occur, and to stand before the Son of Man.
So yes we are to "watch" so that we can "stand before the Son of Man" at His return. And how do we "stand"? By keeping up with world events? I don't think so.
1Cor 16:13 Watch, stand fast in the faith, be brave, be strong.
v. 14 Let all that you do be done with love.
Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
The "evil day" is right now or any day during this age.
Eph 5:14 Therefore He says: "Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light."
v. 15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise,
v. 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Mark 13:35 Therefore stay awake—for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning—
v. 36 lest he come suddenly and find you asleep.
v. 37 And what I say to you I say to all: Stay awake."
Mark 4:19 and the cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things entering in choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
We are not of this world, why have our minds on those things that we are to come out of? We need not worry about what may or may not develop because of the corruption all around us, God will provide
Matt 6:31 "Therefore do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'
Col 3:1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.
v. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.
v. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
v. 4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.
v. 5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
v. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
v. 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Dennis Vogel:
Ray talks about marriage in this audio: https://youtu.be/TrXyHN00q0Q
rick:
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on June 27, 2015, 01:40:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: AwesomeSavior on June 26, 2015, 01:27:16 PM ---Anyone else think the wrath of God is coming soon upon America for this perversion ruling by the Supreme Court? I'm prepping for another massive economic collapse like 2008, except I think it's going to be much worse this time.
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i think the lying charlatan "pastors" have more to fear than confused "men" who cant help themselves ...
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I don’t think pastors can help themselves anymore than confused men or anyone else, if Christ can do nothing on His own, what is anyone else going to do on their own?
To the one who says I will should check to see if its in the counsel of God first.
lurquer:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on June 26, 2015, 10:53:39 PM ---
No Neo, we do not believe the Scripture teach us to give undiluted allegiance to the State.
The Scriptures teach us to submit ourselves to all lawful government and rule. To pay our taxes to the government. Not to speak evil of rulers. To obey those who are over us.
However, when there is a conflict between man's rule and God's, we peacefully follow God's ways, even if we are persecuted and suffer for those beliefs.
God's Kingdom is not of this world. We follow Jesus.
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Well, John, I realize that "WE do not believe the Scripture teach us to give undiluted allegiance to the State". But unfortunately the majority sitting in the pews most certainly do. Who knows, perhaps some here do also.
But it is interesting that you said WE (per Christ's commands?) submit ourselves to "all lawful government and rule." What is "lawful government"? Care to enlighten?
And "to pay our taxes to the government." Chapter and verse there? (Not saying I'm advocating not paying taxes, but where are Christ's followers commanded to do that?)
And also, "Not to speak evil of rulers. To obey those who are over us." Whatever does it mean to "speak evil"?...And who, exactly, are these "rulers" that we should obey?
Just honestly asking...wondering if you can shed some light on a truly muddled concept.
Meanwhile, many still believe that the state defines marriage, not God. For them, (if they are truly hearers and doers of the Word), in light of the High Priests' decree, they must be quite conflicted right now...all I was saying.
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