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Extol:
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--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 20, 2015, 09:51:13 AM ---Where/how did the adversary's gender come from? Is there a scripture that identifies the enemy as a "he"? Been curious for awhile. Thanks
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Jesus classified Satan as a father.
John 8:44
"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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Also:
Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up...
1 Peter 5:8
Gina:
--- Quote from: Ricky on July 20, 2015, 11:06:54 AM ---Satan being a spirit, I thought I read a verse that says, Is this the Man that decievith the whole world. I could not find it in the concordance.
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Hi, Ricky
Isaiah 14:16:
They that see you shall narrowly look on you, and consider you, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
This isn't about Satan - it's about Israel’s Remnant Taunting the King of Babylon (not Satan)
Isaiah 14:
3 When the Lord has given you rest from your pain and turmoil and the hard service with which you were made to serve, 4you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon:
“How the oppressor has ceased,
the insolent furyb ceased!
5The Lord has broken the staff of the wicked,
the scepter of rulers,
6that struck the peoples in wrath
with unceasing blows,
that ruled the nations in anger
with unrelenting persecution.
7The whole earth is at rest and quiet;
they break forth into singing.
8The cypresses rejoice at you,
the cedars of Lebanon, saying,
‘Since you were laid low,
no woodcutter comes up against us.’
9Sheol beneath is stirred up
to meet you when you come;
it rouses the shades to greet you,
all who were leaders of the earth;
it raises from their thrones
all who were kings of the nations.
10All of them will answer
and say to you:
‘You too have become as weak as we!
You have become like us!’
11Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
the sound of your harps;
maggots are laid as a bed beneath you,
and worms are your covers.
12“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Day Star, son of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low!
13You said in your heart,
‘I will ascend to heaven;
above the stars of God
I will set my throne on high;
I will sit on the mount of assembly
in the far reaches of the north;c
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15But you are brought down to Sheol,
to the far reaches of the pit.
16Those who see you will stare at you
and ponder over you:
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
who shook kingdoms,
17who made the world like a desert
and overthrew its cities,
who did not let his prisoners go home?’
18All the kings of the nations lie in glory,
each in his own tomb;d
19but you are cast out, away from your grave,
like a loathed branch,
clothed with the slain, those pierced by the sword,
who go down to the stones of the pit,
like a dead body trampled underfoot.
20You will not be joined with them in burial,
because you have destroyed your land,
you have slain your people.
“May the offspring of evildoers
nevermore be named!
21Prepare slaughter for his sons
because of the guilt of their fathers,
lest they rise and possess the earth,
and fill the face of the world with cities.”
Ray's LOF paper re the Lucifer Lie went into great depth re this very thing. It's an enlightening read if you have the time, you will be blessed.
Gina
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 20, 2015, 09:51:13 AM ---Where/how did the adversary's gender come from? Is there a scripture that identifies the enemy as a "he"? Been curious for awhile. Thanks
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The truth is that the Scriptures do not give us a detailed discussion or answer regarding the gender or sexual differences of angels, if any.
In the Book of Job they are called sons of God. Elsewhere they have a masculine reference. Any girl angels? None mentioned in the Scriptures.
However, there is a Scripture that says the things seen (physical) can give us an idea of things unseen (spiritual). One pervasive aspect of human kind and animal kind, and even plant kind, is the aspect of male and female. God created them male and female.
Does that mean angels are male and female? Do not know. Scriptures don't say for sure.
Some will say that Jesus said the angels do not marry, which is true. However that does not mean that angels do not have sex differences since marriage and sex are two different things. You can have one without the other.
There are a whole lot of things we have to learn in the ages to come.
Gina:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 20, 2015, 12:18:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 20, 2015, 09:51:13 AM ---Where/how did the adversary's gender come from? Is there a scripture that identifies the enemy as a "he"? Been curious for awhile. Thanks
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The truth is that the Scriptures do not give us a detailed discussion or answer regarding the gender or sexual differences of angels, if any.
In the Book of Job they are called sons of God. Elsewhere they have a masculine reference. Any girl angels? None mentioned in the Scriptures.
However, there is a Scripture that says the things seen (physical) can give us an idea of things unseen (spiritual). One pervasive aspect of human kind and animal kind, and even plant kind, is the aspect of male and female. God created them male and female.
Does that mean angels are male and female? Do not know. Scriptures don't say for sure.
Some will say that Jesus said the angels do not marry, which is true. However that does not mean that angels do not have sex differences since marriage and sex are two different things. You can have one without the other.
There are a whole lot of things we have to learn in the ages to come.
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Micah
Nowhere in all of scripture is Satan/YOUR Adversary deemed an "angel." Satan is not an "angel." He masquerades as an angel of light.
2 Cor. 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him
Rev. 20:3 and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.
2 Timothy 2:26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.
2 Corinthians 2:10-11 But one whom you forgive anything, I forgive also; for indeed what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, I did it for your sakes in the presence of Christ, so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.
Eph 2:2 you also—being dead by your offences and sins, 2 In which at one time ye walked, according to the age of the world, according to the prince of the authority of the air, of the spirit that now energiseth in the sons of disobedience,
Revelation 19:20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Revelation 12:9 ... thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan (nowhere called an "angel") , who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown
Gen 3:1Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden ...
Revelation 12:15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent.
Gina:
This isn't to say that women are never overtaken by sin being ensnared by the devil, they are. And since woman is deemed to be the weaker of the two sexes, is she overtaken by a spirit as weak as her or not as weak as her? (I'm not saying her husband is the serpent, or anything like that at all.) But male and female are made differently. One is weaker implying one not as weak, or by relative comparison, strong. So since males are the "stronger" of the sexes, it follows that Satan would be referred to as "he." And Satan isn't some ragdoll, per Ray.
To listen to the Church, one would think that Satan is some silly clown that can be poked fun at and tossed around like some rag doll. I have heard televangelists make statements similar to this: "Tonight we are going to take hold of that Old Serpent, Satan the Devil, by his tail, and toss him out on his ear!" Oh, really? Most such preachers would not recognize Satan if they were shaking hands with him and starring him in the eyes. They know not his appearance; they know not his doctrines; they know not his location; they know not his plan; they know not his influence on their church or his deceptive powers over their own minds. But God has told us these things in His Word. Prepare yourself for a startling revelation in the Book of Revelation! Satan is located in the very last place the churches would ever look. Satan is indeed a power to be reckoned with!
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