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John from Kentucky:
Angel is a word ( a noun) used to refer to spirit beings below God.
Angels are also called messengers. Some are messengers of good. Some are messengers of evil.
Paul says Jesus, as a human, " was made a little lower than angels." That reference refers to all those spirit beings, including Satan and the evil angels.
Just basic scriptural knowledge, of which some apparently are ignorant.
Gina:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 20, 2015, 03:37:49 PM ---Angel is a word ( a noun) used to refer to spirit beings below God.
Angels are also called messengers. Some are messengers of good. Some are messengers of evil.
Paul says Jesus, as a human, " was made a little lower than angels." That reference refers to all those spirit beings, including Satan and the evil angels.
Just basic scriptural knowledge, of which some apparently are ignorant.
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Nowhere is Satan referred to as "a Messenger," that I know of. Do you have chapter and verse on that or two spiritual witnesses to backup your statement of belief, because maybe I'm wrong.
Paul "was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan."
Gina:
Heb 1
13 But to which of the angels has He ever said, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET "?
14 Are they not ALL ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?
14 Therefore, angels are ONLY servants--spirits sent to CARE for people who will inherit salvation.
You think Satan and his deceitful workers disguise and transform themselves into angels of light because they are ministering servants to begin with, which is why they have to fake like they are? Because that's not what Hebrews says.
You think Satan and his deceitful workers care for the sheep?
Kat:
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 20, 2015, 09:51:13 AM ---Where/how did the adversary's gender come from? Is there a scripture that identifies the enemy as a "he"? Been curious for awhile. Thanks
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In considering your question I was thinking about the God ordained structure of authority, we have it throughout Scripture for mankind and I think there may be a parallel in the heavenly realm as well. We can see how Paul explains that gender plays a significant part in this structure of authority.
1Cor 11:3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.
So here is the order of authority, God of course is at the top, then Christ, then man, then woman, and that is portrayed in the Temple and right down into the church and in marriage. In the Temple only men held positions of service and were in the priesthood. I believe men and women are equal as human being, but in terms of what people do, there are distinct roles that God has set in place.
So seeing that God has put these positions of authority in place, the male is clearly the authority figure throughout Scripture and this seems to be carried over into the heavenly realm, as we can see with God Himself is spoken of in the masculine. I'm not sure there is even a female counterpart in the heaven realm, is in necessary or is this just a means of learning to follow God's will in whatever role we have while in the flesh?
But I think the male designation of angels around the God's throne as being masculine shows they have authority in carrying out God's service. Now Satan is represented as masculine, because he also has been given authority in this world.... he is a prince "the prince of the power of the air" (Eph 2:2) and he has a kingdom "if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?" (Mat 12:26).
Anyway just a few thoughts on this gender thing.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Gina:
One more...
Matthew 4:11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
Now if the devil was an angel.... ?
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