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I will pour out My spirit on all flesh...
Ian 155:
Im not sure if I see "the Day" as a literal day,In fact I don't...I see this as a metaphor,like "at the time I visit you" your day may not be my day...
I do not believe the day of the Lord is a literal day but, be sure, it will be coming.
Gen 1:3 And saying is the Elohim, "Become light!" And it is becoming light.
Kat:
Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel:
v. 17 "And it shall be in the last days, says God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
v. 18 And in those days I will pour out My Spirit upon My slaves and My slave women, and they shall prophesy.
v. 19 And I will give wonders in the heaven above, and miracles on the earth below, blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
Hi lauriellen, all of this that Peter is saying, from the prophet Joel, is speaking of what is to happen when Christ returns in the next age, all of Joel chapter 2 is speaking of the next age. The Apostles thought, as Ray had said, they expected it to happen soon, in their lifetime, so Peter is showing them what he thinks is about to happen. Joel is speaking all this about the next age, but notice this is a new sentence a different thought he brings up in verse 20.
Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before that great and glorious Day of the Lord.
The prophet said precisely that right there he is speaking of "before that great and glorious Day of the Lord." All that he had been speaking of up until that point was about the next age, but he clearly states that this particular thought is about what happens "before" all this, and is the symbolism of the sun and moon in this age. But first he was speaking about "the last days," which is the next age, that we can see from other Scripture.
Isa 2:2 And it shall be, in the last days the mountain of Jehovah's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow into it.
v. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob. And He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths. For out of Zion shall go out the Law, and the Word of Jehovah from Jerusalem.
v. 4 And He shall judge among the nations...
Micah 4:1 But it shall be in the last days the mountain of the house of Jehovah shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be lifted up above the hills; and peoples shall flow to it.
v. 2 And many nations shall come and say, Come and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, and to the house of the God of Jacob. And He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths; for the Law shall go forth out of Zion, and the Word of Jehovah from Jerusalem. (this whole chapter is speaking of the next age)
In both those Scripture it shows that what Joel is speaking of is about "the last days" or the next age.
But sometimes the 'last days' that is spoken of in the NT, does mean the end of this present age, so in reading Scripture it has to be discerned which is being spoken of. Then Joel continues on about the next age in the rest of the chapter and Peter has this verse as his last quote from Joel.
Acts 2:21 And it shall be that everyone who shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Hope this is helpful.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
lauriellen:
Thanks for all the input. Kat, those verses made it very plain that the term 'last days' can refer to the time after Jesus returns or during the thousand year reign. What threw me is that by reading the verses in the context and flow, it does appear to be saying that these things happen BEFORE the second coming of Jesus. I thought from reading other versus that use the term 'all flesh', that it does indeed mean 'ALL flesh'.....so I couldn't understand how it could be something that would happen before the return and reign of Christ that the spirit of God would be poured out on all people. It would be a wonderful thing for sure, but I had always understood that it would be something that would happen later at the end of the ages.
Gina:
Micah 4:1 But it shall be in the last days the mountain of the house of Jehovah shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be lifted up above the hills; and peoples shall flow to it.
v. 2 And many nations shall come and say, Come and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, and to the house of the God of Jacob. And He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths; for the Law shall go forth out of Zion, and the Word of Jehovah from Jerusalem.
Not to argue but if the Micah verses are speaking about worshipping God in a mountain in the next age, what does this mean:
7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.” 8(For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.)
9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.)
10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.”
11 The woman said to him, “Sir, you have nothing to draw water with, and the well is deep. Where do you get that living water?
12 Are you greater than our father Jacob? He gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did his sons and his livestock.”
13 Jesus said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will be thirsty again,
14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water, so that I will not be thirsty or have to come here to draw water.”
16 Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.”
17 The woman answered him, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, “You are right in saying, ‘I have no husband’;
18 for you have had five husbands, and the one you now have is not your husband. What you have said is true.”
19 The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet.
20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.”
21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.
23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.
24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
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Kat:
--- Quote from: lauriellen on July 23, 2015, 03:23:43 PM ---Thanks for all the input. Kat, those verses made it very plain that the term 'last days' can refer to the time after Jesus returns or during the thousand year reign. What threw me is that by reading the verses in the context and flow, it does appear to be saying that these things happen BEFORE the second coming of Jesus. I thought from reading other versus that use the term 'all flesh', that it does indeed mean 'ALL flesh'.....so I couldn't understand how it could be something that would happen before the return and reign of Christ that the spirit of God would be poured out on all people. It would be a wonderful thing for sure, but I had always understood that it would be something that would happen later at the end of the ages.
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lauriellen, Only the verse that Joel says "before" is speaking of before the next age, all the rest of that chapter is speaking about the next age.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of Jehovah.
It seems Joel just kind of stuck that in there, about what will happen in this age "before" all that he is saying about the next age. And yes where it says "I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh," that is certainly speaking about the next age when Christ rules.
Isa 40:10 Behold, the Lord Jehovah will come with a strong hand, and His arm shall rule for Him; behold, His reward is with Him, and His work before Him.
Isa 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low; and the crooked places shall be made level, and the rough places smooth;
v. 5 and the glory of Jehovah shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together; for the mouth of Jehovah has spoken.
Hi Gina, where in says in Micah "the mountain of the house of Jehovah shall be established in the top of the mountains," I believe that is speaking of God's government ruling over all "the mountains" of the whole world. The verse in Isaiah also says God's house/government will be on the top of the "mountains" as well.
Isa 2:2 And it shall be, in the last days the mountain of Jehovah's house shall be established in the top of the mountains...
But where Jesus was speaking to the woman at the well, He says "the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth," this is speaking of only the chosen elect now in this age. The rest will later in the next age, as it says in Joel "I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh."
I think learning to notice those little details makes a big difference.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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