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Dave in Tenn:
Here's a little something Ray said in the middle of that little something John posted.
I want to know where they sat down for a meal and before they ate the meal they ask God’s blessing and thanks on the meal. This is not a big deal, in fact I do it, it’s a custom and there is really nothing wrong with it. I just don’t believe it’s Scriptural.
and at the end:
So it’s not a big deal, all I’m saying is we have these traditions that you just know in your mind, ‘well that’s Scriptural.’ The church has been doing that for two thousand years, but I don’t find it in the Bible. Sorry, but I don’t find it there.
It’s fine though, you can start traditions that are not used in the Bible as examples. But the point is people do think it is in the Bible. It’s like the saying, ‘cleanliness is next to godliness.’ People think that’s a proverb from the Bible, it’s not in the Bible, okay.
I haven't listened to this bible-study in quite a while, but if it was true to form, it likely opened and/or closed with a prayer made in 'public'.
But it is as John has said elsewhere, there are people who say they read and understand the articles, but really don't.
I hope I am not "explaining away" Jesus' words by saying that they are spiritual. Perhaps to John, the closet means 'private' as opposed to 'public'. That would be fine with me for him. To me, the closet means 'inward' as opposed to 'outward'. Jesus prayed publicly AND privately. I am assuming that if His words could be recorded in Scripture that there was SOMEBODY there to hear and remember them. Not exactly "private" by the strictest of definitions.
It's just that this tradition of 'saying grace' before a meal is not based on an example from scripture. That's all. I also feel awkward in those situations, but I'm not going to get holier-than-thou about it.
Joel:
The question that comes to my mind is; Is it better to make any mention of God in public, or is better to remain silent and only partake in just the carnal aspects of those types of gatherings?
The way I see it, being lead of the Spirit in all things is the best way to go, and to never say never is my way of thinking when it comes to God.
Paul said he was made all things to all men, that he might by all means save some. (1st Corinthians 9:22)
Joel
octoberose:
I pray with people often and never find that I am compromising my faith in any way. On the contrary, I declare the praises of Him who made me and do it publicly.
santgem:
Hi DEJI,
Greetings!
In your situation what matters is that;
In everything give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 1Th 5:18
but when they ask you to pray be careful that you may not cause one of them to sin or if they are praying do not do your skipping rope or dancing that they may cause them to sin. Joke!
So let’s stop condemning each other. Decide instead to live in such a way that you will not cause another believer to stumble and fall. Rom 14:13
For this reason, if food causes my brother or sister to sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I may not cause one of them to sin. 1Co 8:13
either in public or private or before and after you have to thank God for the things he has given you.
When you have eaten your fill, be sure to praise the LORD your God for the good land he has given you. Deu 8:10
Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. Phl 4:6
But giving thanks is a sacrifice that truly honors me.If you keep to my path, I will reveal to you the salvation of God." Psa 50:23
And whatever you do or say, do it as a representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the Father. Col 3:17
And give thanks for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 5:20
DEJI:
My sincere thanks to everyone. I have always wondered about saying grace before meals too, now I know for sure that it's a tradition of man.
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