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Rays teachings has set me straight !

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Mortemir:
I am in the same boat as you Rick ;)

rick:
Hi Mortemir,


The way I understand it, all humanity is in the same row boat, God is no respecter of persons, The greatest truths I believe I have learned here are the sovereignty of God and every choice is a caused choice.

These truths to me are the greatest foundational truths one needs to understand in this age if they are to be one of the elect.


Ray teaches many truths but they all leads back to these two greatest truths. Rays papers on the twelve truths to understanding His word is a necessity in understanding scripture with is totally invaluable.

If one does not believe in the sovereignty of God and believe they have free will then everything Ray teaches is of no value to them as it is imperative to understand and believe these truths.

I personally believe these truths should be discuses constantly and should be in the forefront of our acknowledgment of the sovereignty of God.     

God bless.  :)

Jeff:
Rick,

As other's have said - I too was changed by the Truths God revealed to Ray and he then shared with everyone who would listen.  It's been nearly a decade?! of reading and re-reading everything here.  The other day I was thinking how much I wish Ray had been able to continue the work he was doing, but obviously he wasn't meant to.  And of course everyone here likely feels that way.

I found though, that at a certain point, all of this knowledge changed me in ways that I didn't expect.  One thing was that faith was less necessary.  I don't mean to say that we don't still need faith, but I didn't need to invoke that as often, simply because I had some Truth.  I think there's an emotional aspect to faith, that isn't necessarily there with knowledge.  I don't know if that makes sense, it's a difficult idea to express.  I guess having knowledge can make it more analytical.

Maybe it's a matter of - when I relied on faith entirely, having no understanding of the Truth, it was an emotional love that I felt.  Having understanding and knowledge possibly gave me a more mature love based on Truth rather than simply hope.

I wanted to shout these Truths too, and I tried, but it was doomed, and eventually I quit talking about it because it seemed to cause so much distress in others.  But then I wondered "what am I supposed to do with this new understanding?"  I don't think I've produced better fruit - I'm still as flawed as ever.  I can't tell anyone because they get upset or think I'm crazy.  I guess I'm still working this out, and pray that I'll understand why God gave this gift to me, or maybe it's just so that I can worship Him better (obviously.)

I also find that i often pick up on new Truths and increase my understanding by re-reading.

Peace,
Jeff

lilitalienboi16:
Jeff,

You said, " I wanted to shout these Truths too, and I tried, but it was doomed, and eventually I quit talking about it because it seemed to cause so much distress in others.  But then I wondered "what am I supposed to do with this new understanding?"  I don't think I've produced better fruit - I'm still as flawed as ever.  I can't tell anyone because they get upset or think I'm crazy.  I guess I'm still working this out, and pray that I'll understand why God gave this gift to me, or maybe it's just so that I can worship Him better (obviously.)
"

My thoughts to that is you should be striving towards the finish line. Run that race for the crown of life.

Jesus said why do you call me Lord (worship me) and do not the things that I say? (obey)

True worship of God is obedience. Knowledge of God alone cannot save you.

Jesus said you will know them by their fruits and that sin should not reign in us.

All this is the working of God by His divine influence upon the heart so then let us all be encouraged to not become complacent but go on to perfection because God is for us and with us. He will finish the good work He has began in us!

Alex

Jeff:
Alex,

Yes, that's the goal - obedience. It's always been the goal. But that's kind of what I meant when I said "What am I supposed do with the knowledge?" I have this amazing understanding of God's Word, but just knowing isn't changing anything. The goal remains the same - I'm simply not as deceived as I was when I was in the church.

I'm a curious sort and wonder why God led me to this. Maybe it's just obvious - because He chose to. :)

Peace
Jeff

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