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Dave in Tenn:
Just as a side note: When "God produces any good that we do, just saying that it 'feels' like I'm doing it. Physically. If I do something righteous or if I judge something correctly I can stop and intellectually identify that it's God and not me doing it but more times then not I simply just do it without thought of whether or not it was of God." doesn't always--seldom actually, works like that for me.
When I manage to do something good or make a good judgement on something, it 'feels' like God did it. I have no issues intellectually back-tracking to make sure I know Who the source is so I can be all humble-and-stuff. In fact, I don't always even know it IS good until it's done and the results become evidence.
Extol:
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You are right about that, and that's why everybody think they have free will, the world does not 'sense' Satan's influence and I/we don't usually 'sense' the Spirit's guidance. It seems that you can mostly tell when you look back and think about a situation and realize it was all of God. But I do find that more and more I'm actually looking/asking for God to help me out.
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These are wise words, Kat. I was raised in charismatic/Pentecostal churches, where it was common for leaders (and people in the congregation) to say things like "I felt the Lord telling me to _____ " or "The Spirit led me to do _____ ". In my earlier years I thought they were just more spiritual than I (since it didn't happen to me), but later on I began to wonder how much of this was authentic. Incidentally, the "Spirit" was usually leading them to do things they wanted (e.g., "The Lord said to me, 'Jerry, you gotta marry that girl. She's one-of-a-kind!'")
Jeff:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on December 02, 2015, 11:53:52 AM ---Just as a side note: When "God produces any good that we do, just saying that it 'feels' like I'm doing it. Physically. If I do something righteous or if I judge something correctly I can stop and intellectually identify that it's God and not me doing it but more times then not I simply just do it without thought of whether or not it was of God." doesn't always--seldom actually, works like that for me.
When I manage to do something good or make a good judgement on something, it 'feels' like God did it. I have no issues intellectually back-tracking to make sure I know Who the source is so I can be all humble-and-stuff. In fact, I don't always even know it IS good until it's done and the results become evidence.
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Simply awesome. I don't mean that facetiously - that is entirely, one of the most humble things I've read in this forum. Not that everyone here isn't humble, I'm just saying that the way you expressed that, is Godly.
Thank you Dave.
lareli:
--- Quote from: Extol on December 02, 2015, 12:37:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kat on December 02, 2015, 11:37:31 AM ---
You are right about that, and that's why everybody think they have free will, the world does not 'sense' Satan's influence and I/we don't usually 'sense' the Spirit's guidance. It seems that you can mostly tell when you look back and think about a situation and realize it was all of God. But I do find that more and more I'm actually looking/asking for God to help me out.
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These are wise words, Kat. I was raised in charismatic/Pentecostal churches, where it was common for leaders (and people in the congregation) to say things like "I felt the Lord telling me to _____ " or "The Spirit led me to do _____ ". In my earlier years I thought they were just more spiritual than I (since it didn't happen to me), but later on I began to wonder how much of this was authentic. Incidentally, the "Spirit" was usually leading them to do things they wanted (e.g., "The Lord said to me, 'Jerry, you gotta marry that girl. She's one-of-a-kind!'")
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The one that most irritated me was ... "The Lord put this on my heart for you.." In my head I would ask... Why wouldn't The Lord just put it on my heart instead of going through you?
This is partly why I identify with the word or idea of 'anarchy'. I understand that God can use any situation, circumstance or person to teach me something but I won't allow a man to have the place of authority over me that belongs to Christ. I know that there are other 'body parts' and that none are superior to any other.. But I won't allow a man to take that place of the 'Head' of the body to which I belong. Christ is the head.
Wittenberg:
Once Jesus puts all enemies under His feet, it will be like an anarchy, in the sense there will be no need for "rulers". All of creation will be in agreement. We will all have His heart and will do nothing outside of God's (not sure the word, plan or will) The law will be written on every bodies heart, all actions will be the same as our heavenly fathers. Hence why after the final resurrection and death being thrown in the lake of fire, all authority goes back to our heavenly Father.
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