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Shall He find faith?
Terry:
I'm wondering lately if I'm not confused, so I was in the church even taught adult sunday school such as it was, I mean talking about being blind I still can't believe it, then as I see it now God called me out of all church teaching none of it seemed right anymore, and lead me here, and through Ray's teaching inspired by God my eyes were opened, it took a bit but praise the Lord I've never been the same, I love this new wine, there's nothing from the past that I want anymore I want more of him, but for me it comes slow, I can't help it if I could change my self I would,so my question is,i feel God called me out of the church {this worlds religious teaching}and I see and understand spiritual things to a degree, so is it wrong to think God called me out I don't see how I could be missing it that much ,i'm not talking about being the elect,i can't manage my own life let alone others affairs, the thing is I never look back theres nothing there for me anymore, so isn't it possible to know we have been called out or are we to just hope, like I said I'm confused.
Terry
Dave in Tenn:
We are saved THROUGH faith, which is also a gift of God. Faith without works is dead. Works without love are worthless. "Good works" done by folks for the praise of men receive their own reward--carnal and temporary. "We" have a higher calling...to do good, without ostentation, in the right way and with the right motives.
It's not 'good works' which deceive the many. It is "many marvelous works done in His name".
rosewhite:
If we accept that 'to break one of the commandments in the smallest degree is to break them all' then I have to say there really are very few True Christians about these days - and if I try to speak about a Bible truth it is obvious that I am in a minority as the vast majority have incorporated all sorts of Satanic nonsense into their Christian beliefs - including evolution and denial of The Flood!
So yes, when the bombs of Armageddon start flying I am sure Jesus and his angels will only have to rapture off to safety a very small percentage of the population.
And if 1 Corinthians 6:9 is true then the death toll during Armageddon really could reach almost 7 billion.
Similarly from the mass of gigantic ante-diluvian ruins now discovered around the world I think the Flood's death toll could have beee in the billions.
On a positive note I think that when Earth is cleansed and restored it will support a population of perhaps 25billion with all having all the food, clean water and space they desire.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Terry on December 16, 2015, 02:08:51 PM ---I'm wondering lately if I'm not confused, so I was in the church even taught adult sunday school such as it was, I mean talking about being blind I still can't believe it, then as I see it now God called me out of all church teaching none of it seemed right anymore, and lead me here, and through Ray's teaching inspired by God my eyes were opened, it took a bit but praise the Lord I've never been the same, I love this new wine, there's nothing from the past that I want anymore I want more of him, but for me it comes slow, I can't help it if I could change my self I would,so my question is,i feel God called me out of the church {this worlds religious teaching}and I see and understand spiritual things to a degree, so is it wrong to think God called me out I don't see how I could be missing it that much ,i'm not talking about being the elect,i can't manage my own life let alone others affairs, the thing is I never look back theres nothing there for me anymore, so isn't it possible to know we have been called out or are we to just hope, like I said I'm confused.
Terry
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Hi Terry,
We can know if we are called and chosen, saints converted by God through the down payment of His Spirit as the promise of the future redemption to come. What we can't know....yet, is if we are the elect--Called, chosen, AND faithful. God knows who the elect are though and in the end all will be saved. Since we are blessed with knowing, let us run the race that we may attain the prize.
Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
God bless,
Alex
Kat:
--- Quote from: Terry on December 16, 2015, 02:08:51 PM ---I'm wondering lately if I'm not confused, so I was in the church even taught adult sunday school such as it was, I mean talking about being blind I still can't believe it, then as I see it now God called me out of all church teaching none of it seemed right anymore, and lead me here, and through Ray's teaching inspired by God my eyes were opened, it took a bit but praise the Lord I've never been the same, I love this new wine, there's nothing from the past that I want anymore I want more of him, but for me it comes slow, I can't help it if I could change my self I would,so my question is,i feel God called me out of the church {this worlds religious teaching}and I see and understand spiritual things to a degree, so is it wrong to think God called me out I don't see how I could be missing it that much ,i'm not talking about being the elect,i can't manage my own life let alone others affairs, the thing is I never look back theres nothing there for me anymore, so isn't it possible to know we have been called out or are we to just hope, like I said I'm confused.
Terry
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Hi Terry, as Alex pointed out there is a long way to go, like running a race, from when our eyes are opened until we finish the race. Christ gave a parable that shows some of the things that come about in the life of a person that causes them to wander away.
Luke 8:4 And when a great multitude had gathered, and they had come to Him from every city, He spoke by a parable:
v. 5 "A sower went out to sow his seed. And as he sowed, some fell by the wayside; and it was trampled down, and the birds of the air devoured it.
v. 6 Some fell on rock; and as soon as it sprang up, it withered away because it lacked moisture.
v. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up with it and choked it.
v. 8 But others fell on good ground, sprang up, and yielded a crop a hundredfold." When He had said these things He cried, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
v. 9 Then His disciples asked Him, saying, "What does this parable mean?"
v. 10 And He said, "To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that 'SEEING THEY MAY NOT SEE, AND HEARING THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND.'
v. 11 "Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
v. 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
v. 13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away.
v. 14 Now the ones that fell among thorns are those who, when they have heard, go out and are choked with cares, riches, and pleasures of life, and bring no fruit to maturity.
v. 15 But the ones that fell on the good ground are those who, having heard the word with a noble and good heart, keep it and bear fruit with patience.
These teaching are reflected in a Bible study 'CAN WE LOSE GOD’S SPIRIT AND EONIAN LIFE?'
[Is “once saved always saved” - Scripturally true or false?]
[And what does it matter? Are not all saved ‘anyway’?]
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7047.0.html
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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