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Wittenberg:
Does the final judgement happen in hearven, on earth, or some 3rd option? Thanks evrybody

rick:
Flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven, one should always remember God is love,He is always looking out for our best interest, God is making a family and His family includes all., if your asking about the ressurrection unto dishonor it will happen on this planet we call earth.

Hope that helps.

God bless   :)

lilitalienboi16:
Jesus establishes His kingdom on this earth, not somewhere else. He returns to this earth in vengeance. He returns with ten thousand of His saints, the saviours of Hosea. When His judgement are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. The great white throne judgement will occur right here on this earth. His feet will stand upon the mount of Olives. A new heaven and a new earth will come to pass and the old carnal sea of humanity will be no more.

God bless,
Alex

indianabob:

Hi Alex,
Your explanation seems correct and yet questions arise.
Please add to what you have presented to explain the sequence of events.

Jesus returns.
Teaches righteousness (during what length of time?)
Then the judgment or judgment concurrent with teaching of righteousness?
Then after all have been judged and had their first opportunity to learn the truth, all are made holy.
Then with a cleansed earth, the Father comes to the earth to live with HIS people and Jesus turns the kingdom over to the father so that all in all comes to be.
1 Cor 15:19-28

Little help please, Indiana Bob






--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on December 27, 2015, 01:06:51 PM ---Jesus establishes His kingdom on this earth, not somewhere else. He returns to this earth in vengeance. He returns with ten thousand of His saints, the saviours of Hosea. When His judgement are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. The great white throne judgement will occur right here on this earth. His feet will stand upon the mount of Olives. A new heaven and a new earth will come to pass and the old carnal sea of humanity will be no more.

God bless,
Alex

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lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: indianabob on December 28, 2015, 02:23:48 PM ---
Hi Alex,
Your explanation seems correct and yet questions arise.
Please add to what you have presented to explain the sequence of events.

Jesus returns.
Teaches righteousness (during what length of time?)
Then the judgment or judgment concurrent with teaching of righteousness?
Then after all have been judged and had their first opportunity to learn the truth, all are made holy.
Then with a cleansed earth, the Father comes to the earth to live with HIS people and Jesus turns the kingdom over to the father so that all in all comes to be.
1 Cor 15:19-28

Little help please, Indiana Bob






--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on December 27, 2015, 01:06:51 PM ---Jesus establishes His kingdom on this earth, not somewhere else. He returns to this earth in vengeance. He returns with ten thousand of His saints, the saviours of Hosea. When His judgement are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. The great white throne judgement will occur right here on this earth. His feet will stand upon the mount of Olives. A new heaven and a new earth will come to pass and the old carnal sea of humanity will be no more.

God bless,
Alex

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Hello Bob,

This is my understanding (which you are welcome to agree or disagree with) and if you would like more scriptures for what I base this understanding off of then I will gladly share them.

When Jesus returns to teach the inhabitants of the world righteousness, this is synonymous with the great white throne judgement and being made holy or saved. In other words, all your steps are essentially one and the same. As ray said, all is one.

The teaching of righteousness is that judgement and the being made holy is a result of that teaching. All this occurs in the next age which begins when God returns to us to establish His kingdom. First He will descend with the shout of the arch angel, the last trumpet,  to which the dead in Christ will rise first and then we that remain will be caught up with Him. Thus begins the age of the great white throne judgement ending in God becoming all in all. The length of time of this age is not specified.

Your last question is one that the forums do not allow us to really venture too far into and I will leave it up to the moderators to clean up my post as they see fit so that for now I may at least attempt to answer you in part.

I do not believe there is someone coming after Jesus, that is, I don't believe there is someone standing behind Jesus, i.e. "Show us the Father" as Philip inquired. Jesus responded, "He that has seen me has seen the Father." Jesus is the Almighty God (Rev. 1:8) and Paul calls Him 'THE' (singular) Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13). I don't believe you can separate Jesus and the Father. There is only one God. Father and Son are one. As Arrhenius put it in the second century, "The Son is the visible of the Father while the Father is the invisible of the Son." In Jesus is the fullness of the deity is dwelling BODILY (Colosians 2:9). The Father is God as God which man cannot currently observe in his present condition (1 Tim. 6:16). Think of when Moses told Jehovah "show me your glory" and He responded, "no man is able to see my face and live."

To my understanding, when you see Jesus you absolutely see everything that is God and that which has been termed "The Father" as man. As ray said, Jesus is the autobiography of God.

God bless,
Alex

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