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New years resolution .
Kat:
--- Quote from: Rick on January 03, 2016, 08:51:33 PM ---The theory of free will argues that anyone possessing this God-defying power can freely choose his own course in life by making his own decisions and choices that are CAUSED by no thing or no one. Every free-willer is said to have the power to do or not do, to think or not think, anything they wish, without anything causing them to do contrariwise. So surely Jesus possessed this power as well, did He not? Not.
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Who are you trying to convince there is no free will? Do you think we don't know that?
Just because people think/believe/plan the things they do, does not change that God is sovereign, and does not change the God causes the outcome every time. Nobody here is saying that anybody makes resolutions with their free will and they can make it come true... but we all do makes choices as we do have a will, it's just not free.
Do not forget there has to be the great deception and Satan is deceiving the whole world (Rev 12:9) that they should believe the lie, so most people certainly do believe they have a free will, BUT not here.
2Thess 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
v. 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
v. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
v. 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
v. 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
v. 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
--- Quote from: Kat on January 03, 2016, 10:12:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on January 03, 2016, 08:51:33 PM ---The theory of free will argues that anyone possessing this God-defying power can freely choose his own course in life by making his own decisions and choices that are CAUSED by no thing or no one. Every free-willer is said to have the power to do or not do, to think or not think, anything they wish, without anything causing them to do contrariwise. So surely Jesus possessed this power as well, did He not? Not.
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Who are you trying to convince there is no free will? Do you think we don't know that?
Just because people think/believe/plan the things they do, does not change that God is sovereign, and does not change the God causes the outcome every time. Nobody here is saying that anybody makes resolutions with their free will and they can make it come true... but we all do makes choices as we do have a will, it's just not free.
Do not forget there has to be the great deception and Satan is deceiving the whole world (Rev 12:9) that they should believe the lie, so most people certainly do believe they have a free will, BUT not here.
2Thess 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
v. 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
v. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
v. 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
v. 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
v. 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Im not trying to convince anyone of anything but was only stating why I believe resolition are a waist of time for me but thats my view it may not be the view of another and I respect that perhaps God will cause others to respect my views as well.
God bless.
Kat:
Hi Rick, we all come here to discuss our opinions about these things... what we should respect is what we find to be sound from the Scripture.
--- Quote ---I believe New years resolutions is not only a waist of time but its a sin too. Its true.
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So a resolution is setting a goal, planning ahead and it appears you believe that is a waste of time and actually a sin, because we cannot determine what is actually going to happen? Well you're right we do not know for sure what even tomorrow holds...
James 4:14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.
So there James shows what the person that really does not consider God in their thinking/planning is like. It's like the parable of the rich man in Luke 12 and God called him a fool for storing up so much wealth. But can and should a person that is striving to obey and serve God ever make plans? Well James goes on to say we should humble ourselves before God, and in planning strive to do so according to God's will.
James 4:15 Instead you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that."
So it's about our attitude towards God, whether we are humble to understand that God rules in our lives and planning. We see that Paul thought this way when making his plans.
1Cor 16:7 For I do not wish to see you now on the way; but I hope to stay a while with you, if the Lord permits.
Acts 18:21 but took leave of them, saying, "I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing...
Heb 6:3 And this we will do if God permits.
So I don't see it as sin for the God fearing person to make resolutions or plan ahead, because we need to make plans to travel just like Paul did and a resolution is just resolving/planning to do something. But it certainly is wise when we consider and plan to do so with God's will in mind.
Pro 21:5 The plans of the diligent lead surely to abundance, but everyone who is hasty comes only to poverty.
Luke 14:28 For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?
Pro 6:6 Go to the ant, O sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise.
v. 7 Without having any chief, officer, or ruler,
v. 8 she prepares her bread in summer and gathers her food in harvest.
Pro 15:22 Without counsel plans fail, but with many advisers they succeed.
I hope you find this helpful, as I am just trying to understand what the Scripture say on this or any matter.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
--- Quote from: Kat on January 04, 2016, 12:11:31 PM ---
Hi Rick, we all come here to discuss our opinions about these things... what we should respect is what we find to be sound from the Scripture.
--- Quote ---I believe New years resolutions is not only a waist of time but its a sin too. Its true.
--- End quote ---
So a resolution is setting a goal, planning ahead and it appears you believe that is a waste of time and actually a sin, because we cannot determine what is actually going to happen? Well you're right we do not know for sure what even tomorrow holds...
James 4:14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.
So there James shows what the person that really does not consider God in their thinking/planning is like. It's like the parable of the rich man in Luke 12 and God called him a fool for storing up so much wealth. But can and should a person that is striving to obey and serve God ever make plans? Well James goes on to say we should humble ourselves before God, and in planning strive to do so according to God's will.
James 4:15 Instead you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that."
So it's about our attitude towards God, whether we are humble to understand that God rules in our lives and planning. We see that Paul thought this way when making his plans.
1Cor 16:7 For I do not wish to see you now on the way; but I hope to stay a while with you, if the Lord permits.
Acts 18:21 but took leave of them, saying, "I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing...
Heb 6:3 And this we will do if God permits.
So I don't see it as sin for the God fearing person to make resolutions or plan ahead, because we need to make plans to travel just like Paul did and a resolution is just resolving/planning to do something. But it certainly is wise when we consider and plan to do so with God's will in mind.
Pro 21:5 The plans of the diligent lead surely to abundance, but everyone who is hasty comes only to poverty.
Luke 14:28 For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?
Pro 6:6 Go to the ant, O sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise.
v. 7 Without having any chief, officer, or ruler,
v. 8 she prepares her bread in summer and gathers her food in harvest.
Pro 15:22 Without counsel plans fail, but with many advisers they succeed.
I hope you find this helpful, as I am just trying to understand what the Scripture say on this or any matter.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Hi Kat,
Yes, I find these scriptures very helpful. I understand what your meaning is now and do agree with its wisdom and soundness.
Anyone making a resolution under the examples of scripture you put forth is not a sin or a waist of time.
Thanks for your reply and God bless.
lareli:
I don't think most of the world believes that they have free will like you guys keep claiming. We here understand that free will means an uncaused will. Ask someone if they have free will and they may say, yes. Ask them if they chose to be born and then ask them if they have an uncaused will and they will say no. I don't know anyone whose ever claimed to have chosen to be born and since everyone will acknowledge that their life was not uncaused then they know that there's no such thing as an uncaused will.
When the majority of the world refers to free will they're not talking about uncaused will they're just talking about will.. Which they do posses. Not only does everyone posses and wield they're own will, but God will hold us accountable for how we use it and how we don't use it too.
You say making a resolution is a sin... For me, personally, staying in the same wretched state because I figure "if God wanted me to stop doing such and such then He would make it so" while not using my will to strive to be a better person.. that's lazy and a cop out and a sin.
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