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Mike Gagne:
Hi Kat, I just want to add this...

      Zec 13:8  And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
Zec 13:9  And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.


I can relate to this...  And I turned and I saw that some things no longer held me captive and I was free from them....

Mike Gagne:
I forgot to write this in the last post...

  The LORD is my GOD...


Love , Peace and Joy to the Brethren

Jeff:
Psalm 34:18 (KJV) "The LORD [is] nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit."

Psalm 51:17 (KJV) "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise."

Isaiah 66:2 (KJV) "For all those [things] hath mine hand made, and all those [things] have been, saith the LORD: but to this [man] will I look, [even] to [him that is] poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word."

From Ray's "Tithing is Unscriptural" paper:

http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html

"The sacrifices spoken of in Malachi were not suitable for God’s house. They offered "POLLUTED BREAD" and we saw some of the many sins that constituted this polluted bread. Here are the only sacrifices that are fit for God’s storehouse:

"The sacrifices of God are A BROKEN SPIRIT: a broken a CONTRITE HEART…" (Psalm 51:17)."

And from "Why does God love you"

http://bible-truths.com/WhyGodLovesYou.htm

"THE SALVATION OF ALL IS 100% CERTAIN

Why should submitting His Son to a brutal beating and crucifixion "please Him?"

"Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief: when You shall make His soul an offering [death on the cross] for sin" (Isaiah 53:10)

The Hebrew word translated "bruise" means: "to crumble; beat to pieces, break (in pieces), bruise, contrite, crush, destroy, humble, oppress, smite" (Strong's Hebrew Lexicon). Read that again... Think about that for a few minutes... How could such human devastation, depravation, and cruel degradation, to One's only Son possibly "PLEASE" His Father? God had to know that what He was doing would not produce the slightest failure. Such an unfathomable sacrifice could only be justified if it produced 100% total success and perfection.

God was not taking a chance by sacrificing His Son "while" we were yet sinners, "before" we ever repented, because God knows that salvation is totally in His hands and not in the hands of humanity. If repentance, conversion, and salvation was up to us, God could not be sure that one single person would ever repent and be saved. Here are but a few of the reasons that the salvation of the whole human race is totally dependant upon God and God only:" EORM

I think I would be concerned that either I wasn't paying attention, or God had no interest in me - without the trials I experience.  I don't invite them (ever!), but secretly appreciate them in a very narrow context (and yet am terrified), but our sacrifices are being kept by God (storehoused) and are significant milestones in our worship and growing obedience to God.

It's so difficult to accept these things we experience while we're in torment, but keeping in mind the goal, it's hard to protest, even though I often do.

Hebrews 12:1 (KJV) "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset [us], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,"

Mike Gagne:
Hi Jeff.

 :)  Yes Amen...

Porter:
Is it safe to say that our faith will be tried severely? To the point where sometimes we might ask, "God where are you? Please help me I cant do it!". Which brings me to my next question. In what way or how does God make a way out? Where is the witness or answer?

1Co 10:13  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Is it grace, being divine influence of the heart "a way to escape"?

I guess having the beast within revealed (by fire) to me can be too much to handle at times. It's a miracle God can keep a person's spirit up despite all that.

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