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Temptation
Mike Gagne:
Thanks Everyone who replied.
I know that God is sovereign, and I can do nothing of my own. And yes Arion we must kill the beast, but do we need actually to sin to be guilty of that sin? What is the way of escape? I think we do lots here and I am looking for someone to confirm with what I am thinking. If it is in my heart then I am already guilty. I don't think Jesus does it all for us, yes He holds us accountable and we must judge are selves. Is this the way to escape from actually doing the sin as we are already guilty of it because it is in are heart, are we to judge it when it comes to thought before it becomes the actual doing of the sin? Or does the, ( that you may be able to bear it ) part mean that I must go through the actual doing and he will strengthen me through it? I think not, thats why I posted this looking for someone to say something in agreement. Hope I am not confusing anyone hear. I guess that would make the sermon on the mount for me. By judging it right when I think of it can that stop me from sining?
Thanks
Wittenberg:
Is the point of existence, to not sin?
Mike Gagne:
Hi Wittenberg, you quote
--- Quote from: Wittenberg on March 06, 2016, 06:25:51 PM ---Is the point of existence, to not sin?
--- End quote ---
My question to you is , is a overcomer someone who continues in sin?
Wittenberg:
It's my understanding that they wont. I have yet to meet one or hear of one. That leads me to believe that God has yet to activate His overcomers. I view my sinning and others sinning as the training before the reigning.
Obviously I hate that I sin, but God thought it was necessary, so I try to view it in that lens and get blessed through it. Consider it pure joy when you face trials of every kind. My sinning is a trial. It can be impossible sometimes for me to see the blessing in sin sometimes, but I believe one day I will understand.
Dave in Tenn:
It isn't a question, to me, of sinning or not sinning as if it is all in or all out. Remember what Ray taught from the Revelation. A third of the trees were killed. A third of the waters. Etc. No, we are not going to be 100% free of sin (especially when we remember that sin is in the heart before it ever becomes a deed--IF ever). Those who overcome do so in increments. Do I think the woman taken in adultery never sinned again? No...but I can believe she never again committed adultery.
We can reach a point where sin no longer has dominion over us. While I also have not met a person who does NO sin, I can at least imagine a time in my own life when sin doesn't have dominion, but is a slip, a weakness in a hard moment, a failing, a remnant of ignorance, or unwillingness. Not all sin is willful. Enough of mine ARE that I cannot say sin has no dominion over me, but life isn't over yet. Paul said it of himself at the end of his life.
This 'sin' that reigns in our members--the one that goes against our will--this weakness, mistakes, failures, etc--will be gone when these bodies are changed in Resurrection at His appearing. Then we will be like Him, if He has chosen us for that then. Until then, we have the down-payment of His spirit. Or not.
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