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lareli:
Dave you make a good point about asking the why instead of, or more important than the what..
But if I don't know what Freemason is or what Skull and Bones is then why would I even care about the why? How can the answer to why benefit me at all if I don't know the what ?
What are these secret society's? What do they do and believe that I should care why? I mean we don't care if these people belong to elite country clubs do we? If someone said I need to ask myself why these people belong to certain country clubs I'd ask what is it about this country club that I should care why they belong to it?
Bath water... Dave is this really a good comparison? Ray spent the first half of the tophet and molech in hinnom paper teaching his readers about bohemian grove and occult secret societies. He provided pictures, names of CIA officials, presidents, CEO's, etc. etc. he provided YouTube links and said "..we seriously need to ask ourselves.."
Bath water is not a fair comparison to this topic.
cheekie3:
Kat -
This is is spot on:
--- Quote ---Let me give you the history of the world including all future prophecies, in one sentence:
God perfectly planned and recorded His creation of the heavens, angels, the earth, and carnal humanity, who sinned wickedly and were all drowned (save a few); who then reached for their own heaven at the tower of Babel in rebellion to the God Who then scattered them (save a few); who later built Babylon into a great pagan empire which God destroyed (save a few); who have since built many wicked and fornicating Babylons collectively called, Mystery Babylon The Great, whom God warns before utterly destroying again (save a few); and of ‘the Few’ God is creating a New Spiritual Humanity of Son-and-Daughter Saviours like unto Jesus, in New Jerusalem on spiritual Mt. Zion, were ALL will be redeemed (NOT just a few); that God may be "ALL in All"!
Maybe I could shorten it down a smidgen, but there it is. The reality of most of the symbolism of Revelation is contained in that one sentence.
--- End quote ---
Thank you for posting it.
Kind Regards.
George.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: largeli on May 18, 2016, 01:34:26 PM ---Dave you make a good point about asking the why instead of, or more important than the what..
But if I don't know what Freemason is or what Skull and Bones is then why would I even care about the why? How can the answer to why benefit me at all if I don't know the what ?
What are these secret society's? What do they do and believe that I should care why? I mean we don't care if these people belong to elite country clubs do we? If someone said I need to ask myself why these people belong to certain country clubs I'd ask what is it about this country club that I should care why they belong to it?
Bath water... Dave is this really a good comparison? Ray spent the first half of the tophet and molech in hinnom paper teaching his readers about bohemian grove and occult secret societies. He provided pictures, names of CIA officials, presidents, CEO's, etc. etc. he provided YouTube links and said "..we seriously need to ask ourselves.."
Bath water is not a fair comparison to this topic.
--- End quote ---
I do care WHY people join elite country clubs. I wonder why these things exist, and why somebody would want to join one. That isn't even the end of "why". WHY shouldn't I care? It's part of the world we live in.
"Bath water" and "bath soap" is a "fair to middling" comparison to bringing in EVERY conspiracy theory on the planet to the forum. Sorry I couldn't do better. "Bath Water" is not a comparison to these other things...unless it is, of course.
Largeli, Ray said we seriously need to ask ourselves WHY... WHY did you leave that out of the quote? I tried to answer "why" from my perspective after much thought and a longish life and experience. I may be wrong, but who else even tried? Trust me, if one of us MUST focus on these things, I'd rather it be you than me. That's how wicked and selfish I am.
You know, I think the producer of the Truman show made a good point, even though he/she is a member of the media elite. "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented. It's as simple as that." It's so true that it even applies if we live in "Conspiracytheoryistan".
I thought about this subject off and on all day today. (I hope that doesn't turn into a habit or especially a forum necessity). This scripture came to mind. The first is from the Apostolic Bible Polyglot, but I've included the "literal" translations I have access to as well as the KJV. I'm changing other words to "evil" to be concordant. Read ALL the words.
Genesis 6:5
(ABP+) beholding And the lord God that were multiplying the evils of men upon the earth, and all that man considered in his heart was diligently upon the (evil) things all the days...
(CLV) And seeing is Yahweh Elohim that much is the evil of humanity in the earth, and every form of the devices of its heart is but evil all its days.
(KJV) And GOD saw that the (evil) of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
(LITV) And Jehovah saw that the evil of man was great on the earth, and every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the day long.
(YLT) And Jehovah seeth that abundant is the (evil) of man in the earth, and every imagination of the thoughts of his heart only evil all the day;
Ray taught that "evil" in the Scripture (the word ra‛ / râ‛âh) carried with it no moral bias. That's the word in Hebrew in all of these, regardless of the translation. That doesn't mean that "evil" is "moral". It just means that the word is not SOLELY referring to wickedness.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4460.0.html
Here's my earnest hope. While "looking into the world" OUR thoughts are not on EVIL CONTINUALLY. You know what happened to those folks.
Php_4:8 Finally, brethren, (yeah, me too, Brother Paul...at least I can hope so) whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think (seriously cogitate, not simply daydream) on these things.
Dave in Tenn:
Cheekie wrote: 'you challenge God - demanding to know why, why, why - but you really do know why - as His Plan is Perfect',
I don't know if you are referring to my repeated use of the word why or not. Believe me, I am not challenging God demanding anything.
Here's what my "why's" are about.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
BOTH Good and Evil. Both.
cheekie3:
Dave in Tenn -
I was not making any reference to any of your posts on this subject - I used 'you challenge God' as a figure of speech - as that is how I personally felt at that particular point in my Walk on this Earth.
--- Quote ---Cheekie wrote: 'you challenge God - demanding to know why, why, why - but you really do know why - as His Plan is Perfect',
I don't know if you are referring to my repeated use of the word why or not. Believe me, I am not challenging God demanding anything.
Here's what my "why's" are about.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
BOTH Good and Evil. Both.
--- End quote ---
I am sorry if I offended you Dave.
I find your posts very valuable, and you have unique insight into many, many subjects - which I (and I am sure the other Form Members) much appreciate.
Kind Regards.
Still Learning George.
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