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Luke 23:43
Chris:
Thanks Kat for all your insight, it helps a lot
virginiabm:
HI Bt family, I was just rereading this thread and I was thinking about the ones who rose from the dead after Christ's resurrection. We know that the Holy Spirit has not come at this time, so I'm wondering are the saints that rose after Jesus did, could they be a part of the 120 in the upper room waiting for the promise of the Holy Spirit? Acts 1: 13.14 gives a few names, but not all names, so could it be? I also have been preplexed about this as Octoberose has, but sitting here meditating on it, this thought came to my mind and I wanted to share it with y'all. They surely would make good witnesses to the resurrection, especially if they had been dead awhile.
These are just my hunble thoughts on the matter.
Your sister in christ Jesus,
Virginia Miller
Kat:
Hi Virginia, I think you have hit on something there.
Isn't that amazing to think about... that there were those followers of Christ that died sometime 'before' His resurrection, but when resurrected back to a physical life when Christ was crucified they could then go on to receive the Holy Spirit. So they too could partake in the first resurrection at Christ's return.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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--- Quote from: virginiabm on May 24, 2016, 09:16:00 AM ---HI Bt family, I was just rereading this thread and I was thinking about the ones who rose from the dead after Christ's resurrection. We know that the Holy Spirit has not come at this time, so I'm wondering are the saints that rose after Jesus did, could they be a part of the 120 in the upper room waiting for the promise of the Holy Spirit? Acts 1: 13.14 gives a few names, but not all names, so could it be? I also have been preplexed about this as Octoberose has, but sitting here meditating on it, this thought came to my mind and I wanted to share it with y'all. They surely would make good witnesses to the resurrection, especially if they had been dead awhile.
These are just my hunble thoughts on the matter.
Your sister in christ Jesus,
Virginia Miller
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Hi all,
What about the patriarchs and prophets of old? Could it include them? It was never clear to me if they would be in the first resurrection or not. We are told they would not precede us. So will they be in the first resurrection???
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
:-\
Kat:
Hi Joe, thinking about those people raised at the time of Christ's death, they were not just random people, they were His followers, they already knew Him, they were "saints."
Mat 27:50 Then Jesus cried out with a loud voice again and died.
v. 51 Suddenly the curtain in the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom, the earth shook, rocks were split open,
v. 52 tombs were opened, and many saints who had died were brought back to life.
v. 53 After his resurrection, they came out of their tombs and went into the Holy City and appeared to many people.
But since these saints had died BEFORE the Holy Spirit had come, they could not obtain the first resurrection... that would include the patriarchs and prophets of old. Though the prophets and patriarchs knew of a Messiah to come, they had never heard the name Jesus, much less about His life, the gospel message, so they could not accepted Him as their Lord and Savior.
Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
So it seems that those saints physical resurrection back to life not only marked the momentous event, Christ's death, but also gave a few of His followers the chance to receive the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, which was not given until AFTER His ascension at Pentecost.
John 16:7 But I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you. But if I depart, I will send Him to you.
John 15:26 And when the Comforter has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He shall testify of Me.
Rom 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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