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Mike Gagne:
Hi Dave, Thats great, I will keep that in mind for my self. :)
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on March 28, 2016, 01:37:25 AM ---You've never read a KJV bible? ;D
I'm convinced beyond unconvincing that there have been PLENTY of believers who had nothing but the KJV.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1Ti 4:11 These things command and teach.
Tell him when he is obedient to this scripture, you'll happily have coffee with him to talk about how Jesus does it.
--- End quote ---
Kat:
2Tim 3:2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
v. 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
v. 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
v. 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
The ministers of the church interprets the Bible with the carnal mind, and they cannot come to the truth of it, their "form of godiness" is religion, certainly not truth. They teach and believe the only thing they can know/understand... and what is so telling is that when they are shown the truth, they deny it!
Titus 1:15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.
v. 16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.
I have very little patience with anybody trying to 'teach' me heresy... they want you to hear them out, but would have very little time for your knowledge, it's not like you can get through to them anyway. And if I just listen without disagreeing, is that not like letting them think you agree with them? Nobody from the church has to explain anything they believe to me, after all I was there most of my life... I know what they believe, but they just can't comprehend what I do. I am not intimidated by there ability to quote many verses either, so I go with "from such people turn away!"
mercy, peace and love
Kat
lostANDfound:
I'm going to keep all this in mind over the next week as I am at a huge family gathering for my grandmas 90th birthday and the pastor is actually my cousin and many other relatives here are missionaries. So I'm likely to get an opportunity to practice it. 😒
Porter:
Really good sound advice everyone, and especially Kat. I really needed to hear that. I too will remember it if there ever is a next time. I can be so stubborn sometimes.
Porter:
Sorry for the double post, but I just had to share this. I was reading the paper 'Does All mean All?' again today and all throughout my reading I had this thought stuck in my head that Scripture is for the Elect ONLY. Then I came across this quote at the end of the paper I never noticed before lol.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5605.0.html
BOTTOM LINE: It is not necessary; we are not obligated; it is not incumbent upon us; we do no NEED to prove our faith to the satisfaction of those who DESPISE THE WORD OF GOD! If we know it in our hearts and minds we are not obligated to prove it to these people that despise the word of God, we’re not obligated. But I teach this, of course for our benefit.
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Before this thread started I had asked God to show me if it was important to share the good news we have learned here at bible truths to those without. Bit by bit and little by little over the past few years and more so over the last few weeks, either through Scripture, or through posts made by forum members and through Ray's papers, God was telling me no.
The truths we know and love as written in the Scriptures and as expounded by Ray are not for everyone. Scripture is not for everyone. The Scriptural references and witnesses that were posted on this thread show that. And it is because like Ray said, "they cant handle the truth".
Any teaching or preaching that needs to be done, is for the benefit and for the perfecting of the Saints.
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Col 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Everything written in Scriptures is all for us. Everything Ray wrote according to what God showed him is for us. I know this is probably no big deal to some of you, but it is a revelation to me. Just want to say I think (I hope) I finally understand.
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