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How do we differentiate a "test" from a "temptation?"
Nelson Boils:
Speaking of "testing:"
An acquaintance of mine was in a relationship with this girl for a while.He did a lot for this girl with the little money he had.Until one day he decided to "test" her by causing his friend to make a move towards his girlfriend.Sad to say,the girlfriend failed the test.
Surprisingly, the whole event,the test,caused more "beans to be spilled" and we found out that the is another guy in the picture.Other truths started to come out.
My acquaintance ditched the girl.
He sure saved himself a lot of time,money and emotions.
rick:
--- Quote from: Mandela on April 10, 2016, 04:40:55 AM ---Speaking of "testing:"
An acquaintance of mine was in a relationship with this girl for a while.He did a lot for this girl with the little money he had.Until one day he decided to "test" her by causing his friend to make a move towards his girlfriend.Sad to say,the girlfriend failed the test.
Surprisingly, the whole event,the test,caused more "beans to be spilled" and we found out that the is another guy in the picture.Other truths started to come out.
My acquaintance ditched the girl.
He sure saved himself a lot of time,money and emotions.
--- End quote ---
You could say test and prove are one in the same , let a man test or let a man prove but isn't ones walk with God a life of chastisement and learning? Unlike your acquaintance God doesn't ditch those He chosen.
God bless.
Nelson Boils:
Deu 13:6 & 8" If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend, who is as your own soul, ENTICES you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you have not known, you, nor your fathers.Do not be guided by him or give attention to him; have no pity on him or mercy, and give him no cover...;"
Question still remains:What is the difference between "testing" and "tempting?"I mean would the girlfriend of my acquaintance have a point if she said,"Well,why on earth did you send your friend to TEMPT me?" Or would you say the girlfriend was "TESTED?"
We are admonished to "TEST"
"Bring everything to the test; cling to what is good"-Paul
dave:
This is just my understanding
Test…..Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Temptation…..Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Kat:
It really depends on the translation as to which word is used as they seem to use, test - prove - try - tempt, interchangeable or different translation which one of the word from the Greek and another uses a different word. Here are a few examples and the definitions.
1Thess 5:21 Prove G1381 all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Cor 3:13 each one's work shall be revealed. For the Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try G1381 each one's work as to what kind it is.
1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but try G1381 the spirits to see if they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
G1381
δοκιμάζω
dokimazō
Thayer Definition: verb
1) to test, examine, prove, scrutinise (to see whether a thing is genuine or not), as metals
2) to recognise as genuine after examination, to approve, deem worthy
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Matt 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why do you tempt G3985 Me, hypocrites?
James 1:13 Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted G3985 from God. For God is not tempted G3985 by evils, and He tempts G3985 no one.
v. 14 But each one is tempted G3985 by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them.
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, being tested G3985, offered up Isaac. And he who had received the promises offered up his only-begotten son,
2Cor 13:5 examine G3985 yourselves, whether you are in the faith, prove G1381 your own selves. Do you not know your own selves, that Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are reprobates?
G3985
πειράζω
peirazō
Thayer Definition: verb
1) to try whether a thing can be done
1a) to attempt, endeavour
2) to try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quantity, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself
2a) in a good sense
2b) in a bad sense, to test one maliciously, craftily to put to the proof his feelings or judgments
2c) to try or test one’s faith, virtue, character, by enticement to sin
2c1) to solicit to sin, to tempt
2c1a) of the temptations of the devil
2d) after the OT usage
2d1) of God: to inflict evils upon one in order to prove his character and the steadfastness of his faith
2d2) men are said to tempt God by exhibitions of distrust, as though they wished to try
whether he is not justly distrusted
2d3) by impious or wicked conduct to test God’s justice and patience, and to challenge him,
as it were to give proof of his perfections.
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Matt 4:7 Jesus said to him, It is written again, "You shall not tempt G1598 the Lord your God."
Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tempted G1598 Him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
G1598
ἐκπειράζω
ekpeirazō
Thayer Definition: verb
1) to prove, test, thoroughly
2) to put to proof God’s character and power
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Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation G3986, but deliver us from the evil. For Yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.
1Cor 10:13 No temptation G3986 has taken you but what is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted G3985 above what you are able, but with the temptation G3986 also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear it.
James 1:2 My brothers, count it all joy when you fall into different kinds of temptations G3986,
G3986
πειρασμός
peirasmos
Thayer Definition: noun
1) an experiment, attempt, trial, proving
1a) trial, proving: the trial made of you by my bodily condition, since condition served as
to test the love of the Galatians toward Paul (Gal_4:14)
1b) the trial of man’s fidelity, integrity, virtue, constancy
1b1) an enticement to sin, temptation, whether arising from the desires or from
the outward circumstances
1b2) an internal temptation to sin
1b2a) of the temptation by which the devil sought to divert Jesus the Messiah
from his divine errand
1b3) of the condition of things, or a mental state, by which we are enticed to sin,
or to a lapse from the faith and holiness
1b4) adversity, affliction, trouble: sent by God and serving to test or prove
one’s character, faith, holiness
1c) temptation (i.e. trial) of God by men
1c1) rebellion against God, by which his power and justice are, as it were,
put to the proof and challenged to show themselves
I know this is all kind of technical, but maybe it will help somebody with this.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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