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How do we differentiate a "test" from a "temptation?"

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Porter:
Forgive me Mandela, but Im still not seeing it. Could be God has yet to show me. Or could be it was God who gave the work of trying Job for Satan to do?

Job 1:8  And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Job 2:6  And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.

Couple the verses above with what has already been posted attesting to the fact God causes Satan to tempt/try/test us. God is still sovereign, still responsible and all is still of God. God has simply delegated Satan (the adversary) to perfect us through trials. In this way there is no contradiction and keeps in perfect harmony with what James 1:13 said.

I dunno, maybe we are saying the same thing, just from different points of view. One view is from the absolute, and the other from the relative? I'm just trying learn.

Peace

 

Dave in Tenn:

--- Quote from: Mandela on April 08, 2016, 06:40:45 AM ---


(20cNT) "Blessed is the man who remains firm under TEMPTATION, for, when he has stood the TEST, he will receive the crown of Life, which the Lord has promised to those who love him"-James 1:12

The verse switches from "temptation" to "test".Is the "temptation" a "test"?

What is the difference between being "tempted" and being "tested"?

God doesn't "tempt" us,but He "tests" us.What is the difference?

--- End quote ---

Porter gave the answer above.  There is no "switch" from "Temptation" to "Test".  We all know what "temptation" is, I'm guessing.  We all know what "trials" are, maybe to a lesser extent.  But the "testing" in this verse is all about "passing".  "When he has been assayed and found true, he will receive the crown of Life which the Lord promised to them who love Him."  The Lord Himself "passed the assay/test".

ASSAY

noun
1.
the testing of a metal or ore to determine its ingredients and quality.
"submission of plate for assay"

verb
1.
determine the content or quality of (a metal or ore).

Same as many of the parables in near-direct comparison.  Many are called, few are chosen.

In school, there are more than one kinds of test, and more than one way to 'see them'.  We can see them as barriers to be crossed on the path to the 'accomplishment' of the goal of 'passing', or graduating, or gaining entry to the next level.  Perhaps often they are.  But we can also see them more the way this word "test" is better translated here.  We're being evaluated to see if what is said about us (and what we say about ourselves) is actually the case.

The Life of Christ on this earth was a "test"--an assay.  It involved temptation, but wasn't limited to that.  He passed.  When we've followed Him, so will we.           

rick:
When I read that God is testing us I cannot help to think that God knows the end from the beginning, it cannot be a test where God wants to see who will pass because He already knew the outcome before He created the universe.

If anything, in my opinion God wants us to see our need for Him, Jesus did say He can do nothing on His own. So what test or temptation can we pass on our own ?

I'm sure there must be a logical answer to ( and lead us not into temptation ) because scripture does not contradict.


God bless.



Nelson Boils:
When a teacher "tests" our children, we pay him a nice salary. But when a teacher "tempts,"entices our children to cheat,offers our children an easy way out,says to them:"i will give you the answers to the question paper for $200,we FIRE HIM.

indianabob:
folks,
It is simple the "test" is to show us how much we do not yet know.
It is an aid to our own understanding. It helps us to see that with all of our knowledge we still need God.
When a loving master show us the results of the test, we know better what we need to focus our efforts on so that we continue to improve and grow in grace and knowledge.

It is given out of love. It is for our benefit.
Indiana bob

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