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Only the blind would deny.
AwesomeSavior:
Rick:
Yes indeed. The level of corruption and pervertedness in this culture is unprecedented. I just saw where Curt Schilling was fired from ESPN because he spoke out against transgendered bathrooms. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that this culture would sink so low in its morals. I will never watch that perverted network again. That movie I mentioned (The Big Short) goes into detail regarding the massive corruption of our financial system that led to the 2008 crisis. It's the kind of movie you can watch multiple times and learn a little bit more each time.
Dean
rick:
Hi Dean,
I heard the same thing about Curt being fired too as a result of his beliefs, quite sickening if you ask me.
We are now being forced to adhere to discussing laws that are an abomination before God , all in the name of liberalism .
It's frustrating to see and hear of all these perversion becoming law and many of us disagree with what the politician's are doing but I always remember God knew these things will be.
I'm convinced Christ is coming back soon as the world really is upside down.
God bless.
Kat:
--- Quote from: Rick on April 22, 2016, 02:15:06 PM ---Hi Kat,
I'm not suggesting that these scriptures are exclusively for the last day generation, these things have already been going on because the carnal mind causes such things but these scriptures are unprecedented in our times unlike any other time.
I also agree with your addition of scriptures as well.
God bless.
--- End quote ---
I think a lot of people believe what you said there, that I put in bold. I have taken an interest in history and have read a few things and all things in consideration there's no time in history that I would rather live in than the present. There have been so many many atrocities throughout history that cruel rulers have use terror to gain control of public... we know about Hitler, well I could give you a long list of others that were equally as evil (I actually had a list in a recent thread of some of the most disturbingly large death tolls from these type rulers http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,16552.0.html ). I would think the people that were so unfortunate to live at the time and place where those horrific things happened would have a better claim as to living in unprecedented evil times.
I'm not saying that there is not plenty of horrible things happening in this world now, but I think we tend to focus on those things that we actually see and hear about happening in the world. Perhaps every generation has had reason to think they were living in the worst of times, and from what I have read in history they are justified in thinking so.
Another thing is I would think if you were watching and taking note of any political system workings in the world, at any time in history, you would find out about enough perversion to choke on. I have come to realize that if I truly want to be separate from the world, then I cannot continue to subject myself, by thinking on worldly things. So I do not keeping watching and thinking on what is happening in this totally unscrupulous governmental system.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
indianabob:
great advice Kat,
We can't change it we can only pray for patience to endure.
In some ways I think that many folks in these harshly ruled nations are better off dead.
Their suffering is ended and there is a better future ahead for them.
Think of the joy that will be theirs when they awake...
Indiana Bob
Porter:
Kat I cant help but be reminded of 2Co_5:7 after what you said.
2Co_5:7 for we walk by faith, not by sight.
After thinking and doing a bit more studying about this subject, along with comments made in other threads stating similar things to what you said, (thanks Dave :D ) I think I now see the errors in my thinking.
So now I'm not really sure Ray was teaching the literal "end of the world" as opposed to the beginning of judgment on America. God's Church is made up of "the many called, but few chosen", and there being "many" in the US, it makes a bit more sense to me now how the US is involved in prophecy.
Anyways here is where Ray spoke a bit about what I'm trying to say.
http://bible-truths.com/towers.htm
WHEN GENTILES ARE JEWS AND JEWS ARE NOT JEWS
[Is American Part of Prophecy?]
The Apostle Peter tells us that this House of God definitely needs judging:
<blockquote> "For the time is come that JUDGMENT must begin at The House of God…" (I Pet. 4:17).
</blockquote> If the "House of God" needed judgment in the days of the Apostles, how much more judgment does it need today? And what did Paul prophesy would happen in this "GREAT House" in our day, "in the LATTER TIMES?" Let’s read it from the source:
<blockquote> "Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the LATTER TIMES some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking LIES IN HYPOCRISY; having their conscience seared with a hot iron" (I Tim. 4:1-2).
</blockquote> And this:
<blockquote> "This, know also, that IN THE LAST DAYS, perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent [without self-control], fierce [brutal], despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady [reckless], high-minded [haughty], lovers of pleasures more than [rather than] lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away… EVER learning, and NEVER able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (II Tim. 3:1-7).
</blockquote> Some Christians naively believe Paul and all these prophecies are speaking of the whole world of mankind in general. Oh no He isn't:
It is not the atheistic heathen world which has "departed from the faith," who "blaspheme God," who have a "form of godliness," or who have "turned away from such."
Oh no. It is the HOUSE OF GOD which has done these things and continues to do them. It is the "CHURCH of the Living God." It is: "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, AND THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" who commits spiritual fornication by going to the "Egypts" of this world and making alliances with the nations rather than trusting in God.
And lest we get puffed up in the realization that the Christian democracies of America and Europe are indeed the "ISRAEL OF GOD" in prophecy, let us not forget that God’s Church is made up of the "MANY called, but FEW chosen" (Matt. 22:14 & Matt. 7:21-23).
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I guess what was tripping me up was the use of phrases like "the last days" in the KJV and many other translations. When ever these "last days" are they would have to be sometime after the "departure" of the Apostles, and does not necessarily mean the end of the world. The second witness Ray gave helps a lot.
Makes me wonder, what is it about the end of the world we people are so fascinated about? Many have been preaching the literal end for centuries now, so what is so different about this time? I too cannot help to ask "when?" as did the Apostles.
Luk 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
Luk 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Luk 17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
Luk 17:23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
Luk 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
I may be wrong, but I'm beginning to think it's not very important to know the signs as to when He will come, because He has always been here within us, at least it is my personal hope that He is within me.
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