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Christendom half right about hell.
Kat:
Matt 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
v. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
v. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
Gal 5:1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
Rom 6:17 But thank God that, though you were once slaves of sin, you became obedient from your hearts to that form of teaching with which you were entrusted!
v. 18 And since you have been freed from sin, you have become slaves of righteousness.
Rom 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
v. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
v. 22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
v. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal (eonian) life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Just thought you would like to see these Scripture Rick.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
--- Quote from: Kat on June 09, 2016, 02:04:46 PM ---
Matt 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
v. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
v. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
Gal 5:1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
Rom 6:17 But thank God that, though you were once slaves of sin, you became obedient from your hearts to that form of teaching with which you were entrusted!
v. 18 And since you have been freed from sin, you have become slaves of righteousness.
Rom 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
v. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
v. 22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
v. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal (eonian) life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Just thought you would like to see these Scripture Rick.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Hi Kat,
You thought rightly , I like the translation you have of Rom 6: 17 . I been stuck or hung up I think between Gods sovereignty and my part .
What I mean by that statement is that God is sovereign and it's not in man to direct his own footsteps and all choices we make are accordingly to our circumstances and all our circumstances are from God but I know I'm still missing something.
I think sometimes I'm just about as dumb as a man can be but Also I think in part because the time I would like to spend reading Rays papers is not always affordable to me but that is not to say that I don't waist time to.
I've learned so much truth from Rays papers it's incredible but Ray has much more truths I haven't even gotten to. I've learned some awesome things from this website, things I might of not known until the next age but Gods plans for me are in this age and this I believe fully but I just feel slow at it.
Ray said learning is hard and I know God does not give it away one must struggle and Wrestle for the truth.
You have been a great inspiration as well as very helpful to me which I am thankful and Indebted .
Thanks again Kat as always and God bless
Kat:
And here's how I can come to terms with the possible idea of being chosen, for any of us lowly nothings ;)
1Cor 1:27 But God chose what is nonsense in the world to make the wise feel ashamed. God chose what is weak in the world to make the strong feel ashamed.
v. 28 And God chose what is insignificant in the world, what is despised, what is nothing, in order to destroy what is something,
v. 29 so that no one may boast in God's presence.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
--- Quote from: Kat on June 09, 2016, 08:26:58 PM ---
And here's how I can come to terms with the possible idea of being chosen, for any of us lowly nothings ;)
1Cor 1:27 But God chose what is nonsense in the world to make the wise feel ashamed. God chose what is weak in the world to make the strong feel ashamed.
v. 28 And God chose what is insignificant in the world, what is despised, what is nothing, in order to destroy what is something,
v. 29 so that no one may boast in God's presence.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Hi Kat,
That's a beautiful response, very encouraging. All you have said sounds much like my life as I can relate to the above.
I know God is working with me but I also know there are no guarantees except only for those who Finnish the race but a race I believe depends solemnly on God. I cannot say I am of the elect I certainly don't deserve such an honor.
God bless.
Jeff:
Matt 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
v. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
v. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
I struggle with verses like these. I don't know what it's like to have rest. I'm not complaining, I just don't understand where/when the "rest" part comes in. I look at the suffering in the world (knowing that it has purpose) but I don't see many people who have "rest" - I just see the suffering part. Are these verses speaking of the future?
Another thing I struggle with is being a slave to sin - I'm probably more of a slave to sin now, than ever in my life. I can't change that, so it's intended, but some of the verses regarding this seem to imply a present tense. Maybe it's the present of a future tense. I'm fairly certain, regardless the knowledge I have, that there is no indwelling of the Spirit in my case.
As I get older and deteriorate I find that the medication I take impacts how I think and feel, which then has an impact on my relationship with God. It effectively draws me away from him which just results in feeling less and less connected to him. I can't control that, so it's intended. If things continue on this track, to the end, at that point I'll be further away from him than I ever have been at any point in my life. It's intended, but I certainly don't understand it. We're supposed to be moving closer to Him, I think, although his plan - our path- is unique, so it's hard to make comparisons.
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