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Did I not hate God enough ?
rick:
I don't remember hating God but I do remember being afraid of God....no not afraid of God but afraid of what He could do to me me.....Im referring to the Christian propaganda.
I'm angry today and my anger is towards God, one would think if you believe in God things should be getting better not worst but in all honesty my life is pure b/s , if my life is solemnly Gods intentions then what my life is must be according to God.
I'm trying to figure out how all the evil in the world is going to make me a better person or in Gods image ? The bible says we are either a slave to sin or to righteousness, I thought about that and concluded either way I'm a slave , some say your better being a slave to righteousness than sin but do we get to decide which we shall be ?
It's God who decides what I am or is it me who decides what I am ? Or is there something causing me to be what I am ? maybe today God decided I should be angry towards Him , looking at my life and knowing its of God then maybe God wants me to hate Him, to feel some kind of rage against Him.
I never felt hatred towards God or some rage against Him just fear maybe that's why things aren't getting better just worst. Maybe I was supposed to hate God in the beginning before coming to know His truths but that would be impossible because all is of God.
It's true that God is awesome and that His plan for all of us is good I just don't feel any love towards God today because all the circumstances He sends me causes my life to be just pure b/s.
I hope ur having a better day than me .
lostANDfound:
I'm sorry to hear that your life is such a struggle right now. It sounds like you've hit a very low point and you're looking for answers. I'm reading Job right now. He was pretty angry with God, liberally cursing the day he was born in his anger and despair, and for similar reasons. Sounds like you are being *temporarily* sifted by The Sifter.
Proverbs 30:33 For pressing milk produces curds, pressing the nose produces blood, and pressing anger produces strife.
Ephesians 4:26 Be angry, and do not sin; let not the sun set upon your wrath,
Ephesians 6:13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
John from Kentucky:
Rick, you asked, "...how all the evil in the world is going to make me a better person or in God's image?"
The answer is found in Gen 3:22, "Then the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil..."
We are being formed in God's image. One of God's attributes is to know good and evil. Thus, we also need to know good and evil.
The tree of knowledge of good and evil is one tree. They go together. You cannot know one without the other. We cannot gain this knowledge by reading it out of a book. We must experience it.
Doug:
Hi Rick,
Sorry to hear of your difficulties you are currently having. Sometimes getting our minds off our problems and focusing on others needs helps. To me it is very easy to look around and see suffering and despair of others. Even in the worst of circumstances we can always find blessings to be thankful for. When your anger subsides, and it will, you will come out stronger and closer to God. Praying for you.
cheekie3:
Rick -
There is knowledge - and there is His Knowledge.
There is wisdom - and there is His Wisdom.
There is truth - and there is His Truth.
To me, by Holy Spirit, the only way for us to become like His Son is to suffer at the hands of evil which He puts us through.
Since He dragged me to Him, there has not been a single day which I have not had to suffer evil - and I do not mean once or twice a day - but multitude of times.
I talked to Him about each and every suffering of evil that I suffered all because I stood my ground and did the right thing, rather than what would have been convenient, and He confirmed to me that I needed to go through His Fiery Furnace Fire in order to have His Character (His Fruit of The Spirit) embedded in my heart and mind.
I now agree that His Plan works and continues to work.
I have also talked to Him about my life before He dragged me out the world; and there were loads of times I suffered during these earlier times too - so I concluded, that we all suffer evil all our lives - and even the worst of all people suffer (even if they themselves inflict a lot of suffering on others) - and yes, all of our individual sufferings (whether we are part of His Elect or not) does indeed start to produce His Fruit in our hearts and minds.
He has recently revealed a great deal to me, yet the suffering has not decreased - in fact, if anything, the suffering has increased. It must be that the more He changes us into His Image, the more suffering we are to suffer in the world.
Off course me beef is with Him, as He is not only my Dad, but Life itself for all, and He decides what we all must go through each second of each day.
Yes, I take out my frustrations on Him, and I demand answers of Him - which mostly do not come quickly - but they do come in His Time.
I understood at an early stage when he first dragged me to Him, that He starts by giving us His Peace, His Love and His Joy. I have never forgotten this - and when I reflect on the issues I experience each and every day, I can confirm that I have His Life, His Light and His Love, His Joy and His Peace within me and with me at all times regardless of what I am going through.
I often check my own life against His nine-fold Fruit of His Spirit - and I tick off the ones I am sure I have an abundance off, and the ones I still struggle with. I go through all these characteristics of God, and reflect on my behaviour when I have interacted with others (including family, friends, The Elect, and others):
1. Love.
2. Joy.
3. Peace.
4. Forbearance (Patience and Restraint)
5. Kindness.
6. Goodness.
7. Fidelity (Faith or Faithfulness)
8. Meekness (Humble, Submissive and Patient)
9. Self Control
And I ask myself and My Heavenly Father how I did (especially if I upset someone for some reason) - and ask these types of questions:
1. Did I act in Love, or was my motive not right. What was the motive in my heart.
2. Did I bring Joy to those I engaged with, or did I make the situation worse.
3. Was the outcome one of Peace, or uncertainty. Did I help the others with their problems, or hindered them.
4. Was I Patient. Did I listen well. Did I restrain myself and thought things through before speaking. Did I react inappropriately.
5. Was I Kind, or was my motive to cause trouble.
6. Did I do the right thing.
7. Do others trust me and confide in me. Do they open up to me or merely tolerate me. Do I make a positive difference. Do I bring substance or superficiality to the table. Did we resolve the issues.
8. Was I meek, humble and patient - and seeking His Help by His Holy Spirit in all of this.
9. Did I exercise Self Control throughout that particular matter.
And my yardstick is NOT political correctness - but His yardstick - put simply - Did I act in Love, and did I treat the others as I would like to be treated - and would He be pleased with my behaviour.
I also take note, that most people are not really interested in The Truth - and many live superficial lives of convenience - as they are reluctant or have no confidence to confront and resolve their problems and issues; thereby tolerating most peoples' bad and unacceptable behaviours (who to me, are in the main, those that are in authority over us in the workplace - which I personally believe cause most people the most problems as they feel powerless to speak out).
I remember talking to my father about the problem he had with one of my brothers. I asked my father, why he did not simply tell his son the truth of the matter, and explain what the outcome of his son's actions produced, and the hurt his son inflicted on my father. My father said, no, I cannot do that, because if I did, my son would get upset with me, and he would not speak to me again or come round to see your mother and I. My father told me that he did not have to explain to me about this matter, and that I did not do as my brother did; and I pointed out to my father, that this is exactly why he should confront my brother about his behaviour - as my brother either knows what he is doing is wrong and ignores the fact that he is causing my parents distress, or he is ignorant of the silent suffering our parents are enduring - either way my brother should be told. I told my father, that if it was me, I would sit my son down, explain the position to him in a calm manner, and answer his questions; and if at the end of it all, he decided I was out of order and decided not to visit his parents anymore or speak to his parents any more, that would be his choice and his loss. I even asked if my father wanted me to talk to my brother on his behalf; and he did not want me to do so. The end game of all this, is that my father (and mother) suffered in silence right up to his death; and my brother now probably has regrets on how he treated our father.
But we cannot make decisions for others, as we can only give our input, whether it is right or wrong; and we all influence each other all the time (in a constructive manner, or in an unhelpful manner - and I do not like to use 'positive' and 'negative' to explain our behaviour, as I believe it is a red herring, in that these do not explain what should be happening, in that, we either helped or did not help others, that wanted help) - and each of us are accountable for all of our decisions and all of our actions.
And if we acted wrongly; we should make amends with those we wronged and ask for their forgiveness - and forgive all others for the wrongs they have done to us, and ask Him to forgive us (as He alone can set aside all our wrong doings).
I hope this little segment helps you a little bit, to better understand your relationship with Our Heavenly Father and Our Elder Brother and King.
Kind Regards
George.
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