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rick:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on July 28, 2016, 06:34:17 PM ---[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

[4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

I think the first and primary "knowledge of the truth"" to be had is in the rest of the sentence/statement--"Good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who will have all men to be saved.

Is that enough "knowledge"?  What comes first?

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Hi Dave,

Good reply ,

The main idea to me in that scripture is that God wills all men to be saved but I'm seeing the and come to a knowledge of God as a qualifier to the main idea.

So I'm thinking you can't have one without the other in this age only.

God bless.

rick:
Hi Alex and Kat,

Definitely great answers and from all I should say. But I want to say as all here who been apart of Christendom and have come to understand the deception that Christendon uses against those who are apart of Christendon by the truths Ray has taught has put all of us here who believe these truths on the right path with is exceptable to God.

I think both Alex and Kat are right in what they say. Dave you asked which is first, I feel compelled to say God is first.


God bless.

Joel:
Jesus said;
John 14:6 -I am the way, the truth , and the life; no man comes to the Father, but by me.

How many people in the world knows that? If it is as they say, and about 30% of the world's population have some belief in the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and about 70% doesn't know very much about him, and the majority of that 70% even gives a tinker's damn about God the Father, and Jesus as Savior.

There has to be a big, big change for all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of that TRUTH.

Joel

cheekie3:
Rick -


--- Quote ---But back to my original question how much knowledge of God does one need to know to qualify to be an elect .
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Sorry, I missed that particular point.

You do not qualify to be His Elect, He chose His Elect before the foundation of Creation: His Choice, His Will, His Desire, and it has nothing to do with you.

Regarding knowledge, He gives you life at birth, then He drags you out of this world at a time of His Choosing. The knowledge for you to accept Him when He drags you, may differ from each Member of His Elect, but it must be sufficient for you to agree to follow Him from that day forward no matter what. He Graces you and provides you with The Faith of His Beloved Son to walk the path of one of His Elect.

Remember, there are four (4) categories of men and women who are approached by Our Heavenly Father, and only one category is prepared to give up all and follow Him.

You personally can check you current standing and status, by reflecting where you were and what you did, and where you are now and what you now do, and no longer desire to do some of the things you used to do, as He has cleansed you from the inside to become free of the tangles of this world.

His Word always checks your current state, if you are prepared to be fully examined by His Beloved Word.

I always check, and ask Him to check me, and if if there is anything in me that is an abomination and offensive to Him, I ask that He burn it out of me and purify me like pure silver and gold.

He continually develops you permanently into The Image of His Beloved Son, and this is irreversible, as once you digest and drink and eat any aspect of His Word, it becomes a part of you for good.

His knowledge to you shall and must increase daily and you grow in Him, more and more into His Devine Image.

To me, there are two paramount principles, once you are dragged from this world to Him:

1. You are daily being cleansed and purified through tribulations and much suffering for His Name's Sake.
2. You are a daily Living Sacrifice presented to the world as His Ambassador representing Him in this corrupt world system, so you shine out from those who are spiritually dead in their sins.

I hope this helps a little.

Cry Out to Him "Please Keep You Knowledge of Your Truth Coming, and do not ever stop, as I want to be Presented Pure and Holy to You in Your Presence, having been Purified in Your Holy Fire, which is Your Holy Word that cannot ever be Broken".

Kind Regards.

George


 

rick:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on July 28, 2016, 08:09:11 PM ---"Knowledge" used in this passage.

G1922
ἐπίγνωσις
epignōsis
ip-ig'-no-sis
From G1921; recognition, that is, (by implication) full discernment, acknowledgement: - (ac-) knowledge (-ing, -ment).

EPI-- a prefix that means higher or highest, more or most complete, ultimate.  It's the same prefix attached to "synagogue" to make the gathering "higher".

Compounded with  γνῶσις gnōsis gno'-sis which more simply means "knowledge". 

That's why many of my translations have it "full knowledge" rather just "knowledge".

I'm not going to preach after the "scripture-reading"  :)  I just wanted to dig a bit deeper into what Scripture actually says.   



 

 

 

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Thanks Dave and God bless.

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