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Giving thanks for all things?
stello:
Thank you all for your responses. Let me make it clear, i don't thank God for everything that is happening because i some how enjoy the evil in this world, i believe it is absolutely necessary for us to go through all of it. I was thanking God for making us and molding us into his sons and daughters.
George thanks for that simple but very effective prayer.
"Maybe thanking God for your own trials because yo understand their necessicity is better and if you must include the world, then thank Him for not being a failure, for having a plan that though it may cause pain, will result in the salvation of all creation and the producing of many sons and daughters who bear His mark." thanks for this Alex and you are 100% correct.
stello
Kat:
There is a passage of Scripture where Paul is speaking to brethren about eating food that was used in some sort of sacrificial ritual... certainly not the same thing as you are saying, but I think there is something to learn from it.
1Cor 8:7 But not everyone knows this truth. Some people have been so used to idols that to this day when they eat such food they still think of it as food that belongs to an idol; their conscience is weak, and they feel they are defiled by the food. (GNB)
By your wife's reaction I take it that she has not reached your level of understanding on these things, so what you may feel is appropriate to gives thanks for, she finds upsetting.
1Cor 8:11 In that case, the weak brother for whom the Messiah died is ruined by your knowledge.
v. 12 When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak consciences, you are sinning against the Messiah.
v. 13 Therefore, if food that I eat causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again, in order to keep my brother from stumbling. (ISV)
So I think what is revealed in this passage is we have to be careful with those we are a witness to by our actions or words... I mean we should be sensitive to another discernment and not risk causing them to stumble because they do not understand things as we do.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
octoberose:
It could be that your wife thought that you lacked compassion, and that was disturbing to her. I am not thankful for all the suffering and all the pain. I am thankful that God will work all things out till He is All in All and I am very aware that His ways are not my ways. And I do pray for the world. I guess that's another discussion.
Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.
santgem:
When God the Father literally separated to a Son in a belly and Jesus has a God and Father,
Jesus teached us this manner of prayer.
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
cheekie3:
octoberose -
You make a good point about compassion:
--- Quote from: octoberose on August 23, 2016, 12:46:34 AM --- It could be that your wife thought that you lacked compassion, and that was disturbing to her. I am not thankful for all the suffering and all the pain. I am thankful that God will work all things out till He is All in All and I am very aware that His ways are not my ways. And I do pray for the world. I guess that's another discussion.
Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.
--- End quote ---
Someone else has mentioned on this Post that Jesus did not pray for the world; and I thought these two Scriptures may help us to try to understand a little better on how we are to pray:
John 17:9: KJV:
I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
John 18:36: KJV:
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
I think perhaps, these do not make it clear on how and for whom we should pray for - and perhaps, we should all read again Ray's Post on 'praying by God's Rules':
http://bible-truths.com/praying.htm
Unless I have disobeyed Our Heavenly Father, I also have, and still do, pray for those 'of' the world, as I have been burdened to.
Kind Regards.
George
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