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John from Kentucky:
Yes, please name one truth that the Christian Churches (or any religion) teach.
Not ten truths. Not five. Not two. Name one truth.
Can you state this one truth in a single sentence in plain English?
It cannot be done because Satan rules in all churches as an angel of light. Satan is a liar and the father of the lie. There is no truth in him. Satan will not allow any truth to be taught in his church by his priests and ministers.
Jesus' message to His few, "Come out of her my people". Do not be deceived by this great false church and associated political and economic systems. Stand alone and apart by the Spirit of God.
lareli:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on May 31, 2017, 04:18:56 PM ---Yes, please name one truth that the Christian Churches (or any religion) teach.
Not ten truths. Not five. Not two. Name one truth.
Can you state this one truth in a single sentence in plain English?
It cannot be done because Satan rules in all churches as an angel of light. Satan is a liar and the father of the lie. There is no truth in him. Satan will not allow any truth to be taught in his church by his priests and ministers.
Jesus' message to His few, "Come out of her my people". Do not be deceived by this great false church and associated political and economic systems. Stand alone and apart by the Spirit of God.
--- End quote ---
Hey I hear ya John. But again, it was Ray who wrote it, not me. I happen to agree with him though and I will reply a little later when I have time to give it some more thought and we'all see what comes of it.
A few questions though; was Ray correct to say that error mixed with truth can be more deceptive than error alone? Was everything the serpent said to Eve a lie? Did the angel not say good things as well as bad things to each of the seven churches in the book of revelations?
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: largeli on June 01, 2017, 02:22:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on May 31, 2017, 04:18:56 PM ---Yes, please name one truth that the Christian Churches (or any religion) teach.
Not ten truths. Not five. Not two. Name one truth.
Can you state this one truth in a single sentence in plain English?
It cannot be done because Satan rules in all churches as an angel of light. Satan is a liar and the father of the lie. There is no truth in him. Satan will not allow any truth to be taught in his church by his priests and ministers.
Jesus' message to His few, "Come out of her my people". Do not be deceived by this great false church and associated political and economic systems. Stand alone and apart by the Spirit of God.
--- End quote ---
Hey I hear ya John. But again, it was Ray who wrote it, not me. I happen to agree with him though and I will reply a little later when I have time to give it some more thought and we'all see what comes of it.
A few questions though; was Ray correct to say that error mixed with truth can be more deceptive than error alone? Was everything the serpent said to Eve a lie? Did the angel not say good things as well as bad things to each of the seven churches in the book of revelations?
--- End quote ---
O.K. I will wait with bated breath to see one truth that the Christian Church teaches. I don't know why it takes so long. I just want to know one truth Christians teach. One truth. Give it your best shot. Please provide at least two Scriptures to support their one great truth.
In your 2nd paragraph, you ask me three questions, which I will answer in order:
1) I don't know. I do not speak for Ray. Regarding deception, it is God Who keeps the Truth from the Many, and God reveals Truth to His blessed Elect, the Few.
2) I do not believe the serpent or Eve are literal but symbolic. But from the Book of Genesis, please quote a statement from the serpent that was the Truth.
3) You ask, "Did the angel not say..." No, an angel did not speak to the Churches. It was Jesus Himself Who spoke to the Churches. Those who use Scriptures, must do so in Truth and care and humility.
lareli:
Well ok John. We'll do it your way.. I won't speak for Ray either then. I'll let his own words speak for himself and you can wrestle with that instead of with me.
From The Lake of Fire Part XI
"However, let me make myself perfectly clear on this matter. I am not suggesting that nothing but the depths of Satan is taught in the Christian Church. That is certainly not true. There are numerous truths of God that are taught in the Church, and there are doctrines and practices of demons that are not taught in the Church." - L Ray Smith... not me.
Ray by his own words which he included in His lake of fire series wanted to make himself perfectly clear... that numerous truths of God are taught in the Church.
Is that plain English enough for you? Not just one truth like you've ask for, but numerous truths.
To speculate as to what truths of God Ray was referring to would be to bear false witness for no one knows the thoughts of another man. Perhaps I'll start another thread sharing my own thoughts but I don't see the point at this time. Each person can discern for themselves whether or not they agree with what Ray wrote here. It's not for me to "teach" or "lead" anyone else's discernment.
I know what I discern regarding Rays statement and it means very little to me what another man believes. To his own master will he stand or fall.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: largeli on June 02, 2017, 12:54:53 PM ---Well ok John. We'll do it your way.. I won't speak for Ray either then. I'll let his own words speak for himself and you can wrestle with that instead of with me.
From The Lake of Fire Part XI
"However, let me make myself perfectly clear on this matter. I am not suggesting that nothing but the depths of Satan is taught in the Christian Church. That is certainly not true. There are numerous truths of God that are taught in the Church, and there are doctrines and practices of demons that are not taught in the Church." - L Ray Smith... not me.
Ray by his own words which he included in His lake of fire series wanted to make himself perfectly clear... that numerous truths of God are taught in the Church.
Is that plain English enough for you? Not just one truth like you've ask for, but numerous truths.
To speculate as to what truths of God Ray was referring to would be to bear false witness for no one knows the thoughts of another man. Perhaps I'll start another thread sharing my own thoughts but I don't see the point at this time. Each person can discern for themselves whether or not they agree with what Ray wrote here. It's not for me to "teach" or "lead" anyone else's discernment.
I know what I discern regarding Rays statement and it means very little to me what another man believes. To his own master will he stand or fall.
--- End quote ---
It has been several days now. Surely one spokesman for Satan's great church can name one truth they teach and back it up with at least two Scriptures.
One itsy, bitsy truth. Just one. Surely there are some scriptural scholars who can explain one teaching of the Christian Church. Surely the angel of light can help out?
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