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Musterseed:
It is Dave, I listened to it last night. Yes, you will know you have been saved only if you come up in the first resurrection. What a wonderful teaching Ray gives us. First or second , I just want Jesus to come now, sigh 😩
indianabob:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 15, 2017, 07:16:02 PM ---I-Bob said, "Those of us on the forum have we suppose accepted that God will eventually deal kindly with all His beloved children. However the question remains as to whether we will be the advanced team or the later followers who benefit from another part of God's overall plan.
I think I recall that Ray Smith told us that we will not know for sure until it happens. Can anyone recall where that is found?"
Bob, I think that is actually in the video Dennis posted above. Coincidence? ;D
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Thank you Dave, much appreciated.
Being older than most I have a selective memory.
My memory is activated by "trigger" words that refresh what I could not have recalled myself.
Hope everyone will be patient with me and all the other old codgers who are doing their best. ::) ;)
lareli:
Been thinking on all the comments here and listened to the audio that Dennis posted. Somewhere about 10 or 11 minutes into the YouTube teaching Ray mentions the verse "why do you call me Lord but don't do what I say?"
In contemplating those words of Christ I've wondered what it is Christ is talking about when He says "do what I say". What is it? Is it 'something' as in one thing or something specific? Or is Christ and God like the voice of our conscience which instructs us as to what is good and evil as it pertains to all things in our life? Assuming one has the spirit of Christ in himself/herself would the voice of your conscience be the voice of the Holy Spirit?
lareli:
If one truly has 'the kingdom of God within you' and if one truly has Christ in them and they in Christ then the way they take care of themselves would reflect that wouldn't it?
I heard someone say that there have been studies that show that if someone takes their sick dog to the vet and the vet orders a course of antibiotics for the dog, the owner is highly likely to see the course of medicine all the way through to the last dose. But if a Dr orders a course of antibiotics for yourself, the individual is far less likely to take the full course of medicine.
When Christ says 'depart from me I never knew you' I wonder if not taking care of oneself is a reflection of one not truly living as if Christ and the kingdom of the Almighty God is within them. If I truly believed that Christ is in me I'd think I'd be very purposeful with what my life is. But years of indoctrination in the worlds church has trained me to believe that it's not about being good, it's just about believing. And when the church says 'believe' they mean an intellectual agreement that something is true.. they don't mean 'believe' as in to live your life as if it's true. There's no action in the church definition of 'belief' or 'faith'.
Perhaps the churches definition of belief and faith (intellectual agreement with no action) is what Christ was calling 'lawlessness'.
cheekie3:
largeli -
Regarding the below:
--- Quote from: largeli on September 22, 2017, 10:38:27 AM ---Been thinking on all the comments here and listened to the audio that Dennis posted. Somewhere about 10 or 11 minutes into the YouTube teaching Ray mentions the verse "why do you call me Lord but don't do what I say?"
In contemplating those words of Christ I've wondered what it is Christ is talking about when He says "do what I say". What is it? Is it 'something' as in one thing or something specific? Or is Christ and God like the voice of our conscience which instructs us as to what is good and evil as it pertains to all things in our life? Assuming one has the spirit of Christ in himself/herself would the voice of your conscience be the voice of the Holy Spirit?
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Our Saviour's question is that the proof of Him being Our Master is that we obey what He said - as recorded all over The New Testament - which can only be done by those with His Holy Spirit indwelling their spirit - which can be summed up by the following:
Matthew 22:35-40: Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV):
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Romans 13:8-10: Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV):
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Or, as some have said 'treat others as you want to be treated'; as Love fulfills the Law.
I hope this helps your understanding.
Warmest Regards.
George
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