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Hebrews 8:8-12
cheekie3:
Mickiel -
Thank you for sharing this:
--- Quote from: Mickiel on July 27, 2017, 09:05:26 AM ---
Greetings,
Yes the mentality of God is amazing, those parts of it that we can see. He definitely has universal intentions for humanity and we are given windows to it, in another example, in Isaiah 66:9 God asks an interest question with definite universal intention; " Shall I bring to the birth , and not cause to bring forth? Says the Lord; shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? says your God!" In my view, this suggest that God will not allow any human to be lost. I mean its how I see it. It like God is saying, in paraphrase; " You think I would create all these humans, only to let some of them die and somehow loose their eternity with me!"
In Isaiah 49:15 this suggestion continues, " Can a woman forget her sucking, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? Yes they may forget, yet I will not forget you." Human salvation is important to God. For his own reason , Isaiah 48:11.
I think its interesting that God also relates the " Suffering syndrome in humanity." Isaiah 48:10, " Behold, I have refined you, but not with silver, I have chosen you in the" furnace of Affliction!" The furnace of affliction , my goodness that describes the road of a human being opened to this reasoning of God and being shown a definite hardship in their lives. Just makes you think.
Peace.
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I most certainly have the been through 'His Fiery Furnace' and 'been consumed by His Fire'; so I do hope that He has indeed refined me like silver and purified me in the many, many, many trials he has put me through - even though I wanted to die and give up on numerous occasions, He did not let me sit down, or go backwards - but dragged me through each ordeal through pain and suffering.
I am convinced that He has no shortcuts and that He makes our lives extremely hard many times; but what He has determined we will do, He will ensure we do it.
I still struggle with the concept of war, and those who deliberately harm others - as from my life's experience, I have observed that most of mankind want to be left alone in peace, to live their lives in peace - yet, there are those who willingly and deliberately choose to 'do harm to others'; and some even classify some of mankind as 'cattle' or 'animals' - to be used and killed.
Perhaps, it is to do with the original two seeds of 'Cain' and 'Abel', in that, 'Cain' instead of doing what was right before the Most High, decided instead to kill his brother Abel -even though Cain knew full well that the Most High would punish him for shedding the blood of his innocent younger brother?
Warmest Regards.
George
Mickiel:
--- Quote from: cheekie3 on July 27, 2017, 12:16:12 PM ---Mickiel -
Thank you for sharing this:
--- Quote from: Mickiel on July 27, 2017, 09:05:26 AM ---
Greetings,
Yes the mentality of God is amazing, those parts of it that we can see. He definitely has universal intentions for humanity and we are given windows to it, in another example, in Isaiah 66:9 God asks an interest question with definite universal intention; " Shall I bring to the birth , and not cause to bring forth? Says the Lord; shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? says your God!" In my view, this suggest that God will not allow any human to be lost. I mean its how I see it. It like God is saying, in paraphrase; " You think I would create all these humans, only to let some of them die and somehow loose their eternity with me!"
In Isaiah 49:15 this suggestion continues, " Can a woman forget her sucking, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? Yes they may forget, yet I will not forget you." Human salvation is important to God. For his own reason , Isaiah 48:11.
I think its interesting that God also relates the " Suffering syndrome in humanity." Isaiah 48:10, " Behold, I have refined you, but not with silver, I have chosen you in the" furnace of Affliction!" The furnace of affliction , my goodness that describes the road of a human being opened to this reasoning of God and being shown a definite hardship in their lives. Just makes you think.
Peace.
--- End quote ---
I most certainly have the been through 'His Fiery Furnace' and 'been consumed by His Fire'; so I do hope that He has indeed refined me like silver and purified me in the many, many, many trials he has put me through - even though I wanted to die and give up on numerous occasions, He did not let me sit down, or go backwards - but dragged me through each ordeal through pain and suffering.
I am convinced that He has no shortcuts and that He makes our lives extremely hard many times; but what He has determined we will do, He will ensure we do it.
I still struggle with the concept of war, and those who deliberately harm others - as from my life's experience, I have observed that most of mankind want to be left alone in peace, to live their lives in peace - yet, there are those who willingly and deliberately choose to 'do harm to others'; and some even classify some of mankind as 'cattle' or 'animals' - to be used and killed.
Perhaps, it is to do with the original two seeds of 'Cain' and 'Abel', in that, 'Cain' instead of doing what was right before the Most High, decided instead to kill his brother Abel -even though Cain knew full well that the Most High would punish him for shedding the blood of his innocent younger brother?
Warmest Regards.
George
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Yes it has to do with Cain and Abel , or Adam and Eve; somewhere in there sin was introduced and struggling and suffering became our reality, seemed to just naturally flow into the world after that tree was planted .I too have been burned in that fire and I don't like the concept of war either. We kill people, then get put in jail for killing people, then get killed in jail for killing others. The world can be a revolting development.
John from Kentucky:
There is no free will. God created evil.
The Scriptures say, "There is none good, no not one" and "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
Since none are good, it follows God intended for all to sin because God is sovereign and nothing goes against His will.
Mankind sins because unseen forces compel mankind to sin. We do not freely decide to do good or evil. Mankind was created flawed.
Judas did not freely choose to betray Jesus. Peter did not freely choose to deny Jesus. All the Apostles did not freely choose to be cowards and abandon Jesus. They did what they were compelled to do.
And many here among us do not freely choose to be ignorant and not understand the above truths, which are plainly taught in the Scriptures and in articles on this website. You are compelled by forces you do not know or understand to follow the teachings of the great false church.
Mickiel:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on July 27, 2017, 04:29:03 PM ---There is no free will. God created evil.
The Scriptures say, "There is none good, no not one" and "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
Since none are good, it follows God intended for all to sin because God is sovereign and nothing goes against His will.
Mankind sins because unseen forces compel mankind to sin. We do not freely decide to do good or evil. Mankind was created flawed.
Judas did not freely choose to betray Jesus. Peter did not freely choose to deny Jesus. All the Apostles did not freely choose to be cowards and abandon Jesus. They did what they were compelled to do.
And many here among us do not freely choose to be ignorant and not understand the above truths, which are plainly taught in the Scriptures and in articles on this website. You are compelled by forces you do not know or understand to follow the teachings of the great false church.
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So for those of us who are ignorant, do you have any extra smart pills that we can take?
Musterseed:
I totally agree John. We are created as weak minded carnal beasts to be tamed. I don't know why
God did it this way, I just know it is the best way for His Master Plan.
The Apostles did not freely choose to be Apostles. They were just doing their everyday work when Jesus walked by and said " Follow me" , He didn't give them an application to fill out and they didn't even question Him , they just dropped everything and by a supernatural compelling force, they followed, they wanted to follow, they wanted to Love Him. He compels us , He is in control of everything and It is so comforting to know this because the world is headed exactly where He wants it to go. Like Ray said" The world will be in turmoil when Jesus comes "and I can't wait for
every knee to bow to Him and know that He is God. If God wanted the world to believe in Him right now, it would, but He doesn't. That day is coming though and I say " Come Lord Jesus
My kids profess to be atheists, however they believe in the false doctrine of free will without even knowing its of the great false church teaching. Our Lord God is awesome. You are right John, if I am meant to be ignorant about some things, it is in the plan. All is of God. Amen...... God Bless You my friend,,,,, Pamela
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