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seriousaboutsalvation:
Hi, Luke 19:11-27.  Can someone help me to understand this?   

Thanks so much,  Daniel

Mickiel:

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Thanks so much,  Daniel

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Greetings,

My understanding of it is that Christ gives an individual certain gifts , or a certain thing to do, and he expects them to do it; no matter what they think about it. The thing he gave me to do , I remember getting tired of doing it at times. I am a bit different, I don't stay put on one site, I go everywhere and spread this truth, because that is what he put on my heart to do.  For 26 years I have shared this marvelous truth, and all kinds of people reject it, but some have seen it. I often get tired of being rejected and called blasphemus, and being banned. And in these verse Christ is serious about this, you know, what he gave you and what he wants you to do. Jesus seems , at the end, to even be threatening those gifted.

I know a few years ago I had my fill of it, and I just stopped doing it. Even those called of God rejected me, and I was tired of walking alone. Well next thing you know my brother had cancer, and the next several months I got cancer; lung cancer, I used to smoke. A year later the cancer went terminal, and they gave me 6 months to live, which was last November. So the gift God gave me, ( or the coins), I began to not use them; I stopped growing. Its as if Jesus was saying to me, either you use your gifts, or I am going to remove your life from this planet! So I got back on the internet and resumed telling this truth everywhere. Its a very hard thing to do, and a very lonely existence. I never meet anyone called, hardly ever. And for some reason, when I go to sites of called people, its as if they fear me. Like I am going to hurt them or something. Which makes me feel unwanted, like I don't fit. Which tempts you to not use your gift.

So I think it means to simply use your gifts, because if you keep it to yourself, that angers Christ.

cheekie3:
Daniel -

Hi.

Regarding your enquiry about:


--- Quote from: seriousaboutsalvation on July 31, 2017, 01:12:40 PM ---Hi, Luke 19:11-27.  Can someone help me to understand this?   

Thanks so much,  Daniel

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Luke 19:11-27J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)

11 Then as the crowd still listened attentively, Jesus went on to give them this parable, For the fact that he was nearing Jerusalem made them imagine that the kingdom of God was on the point of appearing.

12-24 “Once upon a time a man of good family went abroad to accept a kingdom and then return. He summoned ten of his servants and gave them each ten pounds, with the words, ‘Use this money to trade with until I come back.’ But the citizens detested him and they sent a delegation after him, to say, ‘We will not have this man to be our king.’ Then later, when he had received his kingdom, he returned and gave orders for the servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, so that he could find out what profit they had made. The first came into his presence, and said, ‘Sire, your ten pounds have made a hundred pounds more.’ ‘Splendid, my good fellow,’ he said, ‘since you have proved trustworthy over this small amount, I am going to put you in charge of ten towns.’ The second came in and said, ‘Sire, your ten pounds have made fifty pounds.’ and he said to him, ‘Good, you’re appointed governor of five towns.’ When the last came, he said, ‘Sire, here are your ten pounds, which I have been keeping wrapped up in a handkerchief. I have been scared—I know you’re a hard man, getting something for nothing and reaping where you never sowed.’ To which he replied, ‘You scoundrel, your own words condemn you! You knew perfectly well, did you, that I am a hard man who gets something for nothing and reaps where he never sowed? Then why didn’t you put my money into the bank, and then when I returned I could have had it back with interest?’ Then he said to those who were standing by, ‘Take away his ten pounds and give it to the fellow who has a hundred.’

25-27 “‘But, sire, he has a hundred pounds already,’ they said to him. ‘Yes,’ he replied, ‘and I tell you that the man who has something will get more given to him. But as for the man who has nothing, even his “nothing” will be taken away. And as for these enemies of mine who objected to my being their king, bring them here and execute them in my presence.’”

I do not understand all of this Parable - in that:

A. The Master was a hard man (and as this represents 'The Most High', perhaps, it refers to the fact that 'He does not permit any shortcuts', as we must all 'go through the fire' as 'He Directs' - and during these times 'Life is extremly hard and very painful'?).

B. I thought 'usury' / 'interest' is an abomination to The Most High.

The way I have understood the main part of this Parable is that when The Most High gifts a member of His Elect and Called and Chosen, they must 'act' upon it - and this equates to 'Works' as 'Faith without Works, is dead' - but this 'Faith' and this 'Works' is 'Christ in you' - as it is He that doeth these 'Works' by 'His Holy Spirit' in order to fulfill the 'intention' of The Most High.

With regards to these specific coins / talents / 'gifts' - from my own personal experience, these are in the main twofold:

I. When He puts you through the fire (as He is a consuming Fire) and tries you - by refining you as silver - in order to build His Character in you - which are the 'Fruit of the Spirit (which are His Characteristics - namely - Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and and Self-Control)' - which I find most find 'Patience' or 'Long-suffering' and 'Self-Control' being the hardest to deal with. I personally, rightly or wrongly, put 'Self-Control at odds with Self-Defense' - and I may be wrong about this particular aspect.

II. When 'He Direct the member of His Elect to do His Works' through 'Christ Jesus, and by 'His Holy Spirit' - whereby it may seem that the member of His Elect is both 'the active part' and also 'an observer' of what 'He is doing through them'.
   
I hope this helps you a little.

I am sure others on this Forum will correct me if I am wrong about this; and perhaps enlighten us on the 'interest' and 'hard man' aspects of this Parable.

Warmest Regards.

George

seriousaboutsalvation:
Thank you so much everyone. Lord willing , I will keep reading Rays teaching.  I so much LOVE it!!!!

Daniel

John from Kentucky:
How refreshing.  Someone actually asking what Ray had to say.

We have many among us woefully ignorant of the Scriptures, but who want to teach us their opinions.  How boring.

Ray already has done the heavy lifting on the subject of parables with numerous supporting Scriptures.

All parables are about the same thing.  If you understand one parable, then you understand them all.

For those who really want to learn something, go to the 1st page of this website, just below the Lake of Fire articles, the 3rd article down is "12 Truths to Understanding His Word".  Read all 12 items, but especially truths 2, 3, and 4 to obtain fundamental truths about parables.

If you can stand more truth, locate the section on more of Ray's teachings, 2nd article down is one of Ray's bible studies called Foundational Truths Feb 2008, which has a section on parables.

One other thing needed is the Holy Spirit, without which you will not understand, no matter how hard you try, for your time has not yet come.

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