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Which Scriptures have been the hardest for us to understand

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lareli:

--- Quote from: cheekie3 on October 25, 2017, 10:22:22 AM ---Joel -

Thank you for your question:


--- Quote from: Joel on October 25, 2017, 09:54:00 AM ---George,
A lot has been said about the Jews that were killed in the death camps during the war, what are YOU saying in your statement in this post about the gassing that happened over there?

Joel

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I have researched this, and experts have calculated how many were sopposed to be gassed and buried, over the time these camps were open, and concluded that, it is an impossibility that 6 million could have been killed, over that short period of time, within these small buildings with these small ovens, etc.

Also, the buildings could not keep the gas in, as they were not sealed - and had normal doors.

I know that this is not a subject to discuss on this Forum - and perhaps, we should all do our own research on this, and decide for ourselves, what is true, and what is not true - or at least, what is probable, and what is not possible.

Warmest Regards.

George

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History is (sometimes) written by the victors to make themselves appear noble, righteous and heroic while demonizing the loser. It isn't always so, but it isn't uncommon for this to be the case. So it isn't ignorant to question claims such as the "6 million" Jews were killed in the concentration camps by the Nazis.

So maybe the 6 million number was inflated (or maybe not). Maybe some were gassed and many more just starved to death in the camps and many were shot execution style.. or are you implying that the holocaust may not have happened at all? What difference would it make if only 5 million Jews died in the camps.. or 4 million? What difference would it make to your point if most of the victims starved to death instead of had been gassed?

cheekie3:
Dennis -

I will keep Posts to one at a time in the future.

Duly noted and accepted.


--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on October 25, 2017, 10:04:10 AM ---
--- Quote ---Were not professional technicians asked to visit the gas chambers; and did they not conclude, that it was impossible for gas chambers to exist in these buildings - or for so many to be gassed to death, and buried, etc?

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--- Quote from: Joel on October 25, 2017, 09:54:00 AM ---George,
A lot has been said about the Jews that were killed in the death camps during the war, what are YOU saying in your statement in this post about the gassing that happened over there?

Joel

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Thank you Joel - Too many times when I see a very lengthy post I tend to skim instead of reading carefully.

And George - There are too many topics in this one post. One topic per post please. And I would also like to know what you mean by the above statement.

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Different scientists have visited these camps, on different occasions; and they concluded that it was not technically possible to gas people within these buildings, because they were not sealed shut - and that the sheer numbers could not have been killed and buried, on such a large scale, within the time frame that 6 million were said to have been killed, even if they were used round the clock.

Warmest Regards.

George

Dave in Tenn:
And "different" scientists have also been proven unfit to comment.  Seems there is always somebody with an "alternative" opinion.   
 
This is moving into an area rife with speculation and is not fit for this forum.   

Joel:
The way I see it; the German war machine was expert at documenting their own atrocities. Many are naive, and misled in underestimating the ability, and capabilities of a man, or a group that's sole purpose is doing evil.

Joel
 

lareli:


Isaiah 28: 10-16 (KJV):

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11 for with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward,
and be broken, and snared, and taken.
14 Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16 therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.


George I read verses 15 and 16 and I think about the foundational doctrine of Christianity. All christians believe that because they believe in Jesus Christ that they will not die spiritually nor will they be judged. They've made a covenant with death and the wrath of God won't touch them, so they are taught. It's a lie that they have made their refuge.

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