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Which Scriptures have been the hardest for us to understand
lareli:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on October 27, 2017, 01:28:04 PM ---It is shocking to see how ignorant and uneducated some Forum members are.
Brings to mind the Scripture that says not many wise are called.
I do not mind being persecuted for Scriptural Truths.
But being lumped together with really dumb members on non scriptural matters is hard to take.
--- End quote ---
You concern yourself with the opinions of men.
Will we be judged as individuals? Or as a group.. “lumped together”?
Then why fret over the opinions of men, as to who they lump you together with?
1 Cor 4:3
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
2 Cor 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Matt 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: largeli on October 30, 2017, 10:59:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on October 27, 2017, 01:28:04 PM ---It is shocking to see how ignorant and uneducated some Forum members are.
Brings to mind the Scripture that says not many wise are called.
I do not mind being persecuted for Scriptural Truths.
But being lumped together with really dumb members on non scriptural matters is hard to take.
--- End quote ---
You concern yourself with the opinions of men.. as does all of the carnal church.
Will we be judged as individuals? Or as a group.. “lumped together”?
Then why fret over the opinions of men, as to who they lump you together with?
1 Cor 4:3
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
2 Cor 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Matt 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
--- End quote ---
Just remember this works both ways.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: largeli on October 30, 2017, 10:59:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on October 27, 2017, 01:28:04 PM ---It is shocking to see how ignorant and uneducated some Forum members are.
Brings to mind the Scripture that says not many wise are called.
I do not mind being persecuted for Scriptural Truths.
But being lumped together with really dumb members on non scriptural matters is hard to take.
--- End quote ---
You concern yourself with the opinions of men.
Will we be judged as individuals? Or as a group.. “lumped together”?
Then why fret over the opinions of men, as to who they lump you together with?
1 Cor 4:3
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
2 Cor 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Matt 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
--- End quote ---
Thanks for the sermon largeli. That much preaching should last me for a while. Maybe I can avoid Christians and Holocaust deniers for at least a year.
lareli:
Until this thread, I’d never actually doubted anything pertaining to the holocaust.. and I still have no reason to doubt anything that’s widely accepted in regards to the holocaust.
But, I have a love for truth and that makes me want to hear all sides of a claim. Can’t help it. The desire for truth compels me.
Keeping with the original topic of this thread..
Here’s a scripture Im having a hard time understanding,
2 Thes 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
The love of the truth.
Is the truth spoken of in this verse, is it only scriptural truth or is it all truth.
octoberose:
Hi largely,
I looked up 2 Thessalonians and read the chapter your verse came from. It seems to me, since Paul is speaking about the lawless one being revealed and Satan's works, and then goes to those who are perishing Because "they refuse to love the truth and be saved", and then the clincher to me is verse 12 so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.-So, I'm thinking he's talking about a specific truth. But God's Truth is Truth so...
I gotta tell you- I struggle with this. Thessalonians is not apocalyptic scripture the way Revelations is, but here he is talking about a man of lawlessness that sounds very much like a human being who is not you or me who has yet to be revealed. And back in the day before I knew about God ultimately saving all, I would read that verse 10 "They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved" and think Free Will. I would not have known that Jesus came to seek and save the perishing and the saved he is talking about is the next aion, not a forever heaven.
I looked this up in the search and nothing came up but I think we or Ray had spoken about it somewhere.
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