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Why God commanded the killing of infants?
Wanda:
--- Quote from: Rolihlahla on December 04, 2017, 08:22:23 PM ---Ok,Wanda,I see what you saying.I didn't read the whole and build up to that verse.
Thanx.
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All is good my brother, hope it helped in some way. :)
indianabob:
Friends,
I think that I see the concern for "innocent" children in this assignment given to Israel, but I have a statement and a question. It is appointed unto all men to die once so what does it matter when we die?
We send our young men and women into battle with pride and yet we concern ourselves that they die too soon. While we don't seem as concerned about the grief of the parents of those they killed in battle.
This seems to me a little hypocritical. If parents and loved ones don't believe in a resurrection then I can understand the concern and pain that those who grieve are having. But we who know God's will to bring all into His family should perhaps have a more understanding view.
What choice really did Israel have in the heat of battle? Were they going to start an orphanage for thousands of babies and juveniles so they wouldn't starve? Or were they going to adopt them into their own family and deal with the obvious difficulty of defending what they had done to the natural parents of these kids? Wouldn't those children have resented being forced to live with Israel? Wouldn't it have brought trouble to both groups as the months and years passed? God loves us all but God has chosen to lead a chosen few both then and now in this era and knew that they could not be mixed and obey successfully.
Erasing the whole population and reserving them to a better time when Lord Jesus is ruling was the better choice for all concerned was it not?
Indiana Bob
Musterseed:
Hi I-Bob, hope you are well my friend and everyone on BT.
I was looking at the verse Sam. 15:3 and I’m thinking ,,,,,this is no different than battles all over the world, now. I’m sure G. Bush wasn’t the least bit concerned about the children when they destroyed Iraq or any other war then and now. The sacrifice of children is ongoing in many ways.
A subject I’d like to discuss. Another time. Anyway, I have another question after reading this
book of 1 Samuel.
Sam. 4-7
So Saul summoned the people and numbered them in Telaim(why number them)? two hundred thousand men on foot and ten thousand men of Judah.
5-And Saul came to the city of Amalek and (lay in wait) in the valley.
6- Then Saul said to the Kenites. (Go , depart; go down from among the Amaleikes, lest I
destroy you with them for (you showed kindness )to all the people of Israel when they came up
out of Egypt.So the (Kenites) departed from among the Amaleikes etc,'
I could be totally confused but this reads like a parable of the many and the few to me.Also
Who are the Kenites and why did Saul give them a heads up before he attacked . By doing this
maybe a lot of the people , including children were spared. IDK, I’m thinking the Amaleikes
are a symbol for the many and the Kenites a symbol for the Few. Plus The Kenites showed the people of Israel kindness( does this mean they believed in Israel?
If this is not correct and someone out in BT land knows, please shut me down before I continue studying on this subject so I can get on the right path as the OT is a challenge for me.Thanks and God Bless,,,,,Pamela ❤️
Ray said “when we read about Israel, we read about Jesus, and when we read about Jesus we read obout us”. Does this apply here?
arion:
--- Quote from: Rolihlahla on December 03, 2017, 06:14:11 PM ---How would you try explain why God commanded the Israelites to kill infants?
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Simple. He is God and we are not. If there was a better way for him to accomplish his will for all humanity then he would of done it that way. IF this life was all that there is with no resurrection then I would be tempted to say that it is unjust for God to have issued such a command. But that isn't the case now, is it? A thousand years in his sight is as a day and a day as a thousand years. Even if a man lives to a ripe old age it's only the blink of an eye on God's timeline. All will be resurrected, all will be judged and all will be made into his express image in his time. All those who have died including infants will be resurrected and learn the truths of God. I'm a simple man and when questions happen that I don't understand why God did something a certain way I return to this often.
If there was a better way for God to accomplish his will for humanity then he would do it that way.
I rest fully in that. It is enough.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Musterseed on December 05, 2017, 11:11:08 AM ---Hi I-Bob, hope you are well my friend and everyone on BT.
I was looking at the verse Sam. 15:3 and I’m thinking ,,,,,this is no different than battles all over the world, now. I’m sure G. Bush wasn’t the least bit concerned about the children when they destroyed Iraq or any other war then and now. The sacrifice of children is ongoing in many ways.
A subject I’d like to discuss. Another time. Anyway, I have another question after reading this
book of 1 Samuel.
Sam. 4-7
So Saul summoned the people and numbered them in Telaim(why number them)? two hundred thousand men on foot and ten thousand men of Judah.
5-And Saul came to the city of Amalek and (lay in wait) in the valley.
6- Then Saul said to the Kenites. (Go , depart; go down from among the Amaleikes, lest I
destroy you with them for (you showed kindness )to all the people of Israel when they came up
out of Egypt.So the (Kenites) departed from among the Amaleikes etc,'
I could be totally confused but this reads like a parable of the many and the few to me.Also
Who are the Kenites and why did Saul give them a heads up before he attacked . By doing this
maybe a lot of the people , including children were spared. IDK, I’m thinking the Amaleikes
are a symbol for the many and the Kenites a symbol for the Few. Plus The Kenites showed the people of Israel kindness( does this mean they believed in Israel?
If this is not correct and someone out in BT land knows, please shut me down before I continue studying on this subject so I can get on the right path as the OT is a challenge for me.Thanks and God Bless,,,,,Pamela ❤️
Ray said “when we read about Israel, we read about Jesus, and when we read about Jesus we read obout us”. Does this apply here?
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For what it's worth, I agree with you. And it's not the only foreshadowing of the many/few, called/chosen in the OT. I also agree that the OT is a challenge. We are to compare spiritual with spiritual. For me, that "ends" a ton of otherwise fruitless speculation. The New is not the Old.
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