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Wanda:

--- Quote from: Musterseed on December 05, 2017, 11:11:08 AM ---Hi I-Bob, hope you are well my friend and everyone on BT.
I was looking at the verse Sam. 15:3 and I’m thinking ,,,,,this is no different than battles all over the world, now. I’m sure G. Bush wasn’t the least bit concerned about the children when they destroyed Iraq or any other war then and now. The sacrifice of children is ongoing in many ways.
A subject I’d like to discuss. Another time. Anyway, I have another question after reading this
book of 1 Samuel.
Sam. 4-7
So Saul summoned the people and numbered them in Telaim(why number them)? two hundred thousand men on foot and ten thousand men of Judah.
5-And Saul came to the city of Amalek and (lay in wait) in the valley.
6- Then Saul said to the Kenites. (Go , depart; go down from among the Amaleikes, lest I
destroy you with them for (you showed kindness )to all the people of Israel when they came up
out of Egypt.So the (Kenites) departed from among the Amaleikes etc,'

I could be totally confused but this reads like a parable of the many and the few to me.Also
Who are the Kenites and why did Saul give them a heads up before he attacked . By doing this
maybe a lot of the people , including children were spared. IDK, I’m thinking the Amaleikes
are a symbol for the many and the Kenites a symbol for the Few. Plus The Kenites showed the people of Israel kindness( does this mean they believed in Israel?
If this is not correct and someone out in BT land knows, please shut me down before I continue studying on this subject so I can get on the right path as the OT is a challenge for me.Thanks and God Bless,,,,,Pamela ❤️

Ray said “when we read about Israel, we read about Jesus, and when we read about Jesus we read obout us”.     Does this apply here?

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Pamela I'm in agreement with you as well.

As for the numbering of the troops...

This was another disobedience to God Saul displayed.

The primary reason in the Old Testament for taking a census was to know the size of a nation's army and its ability to win wars against other people (Numbers 1:1-4, see also verse 19)!

A man only had the right to count or number what belonged to him. Israel did not belong to David; Israel belonged to God. In Exodus 30:12 God told Moses, “When you take a census of the Israelites to count them, each one must pay the LORD a ransom for his life at the time he is counted. Then no plague will come on them when you number them.” It was up to God to command a census, and if David counted he should only do it at God’s command, receiving a ransom to “atone” for the counting. This is why God was angry again with Israel and is also why David was “conscience-stricken” after he counted

Numbers signifies power in this regard. Saul was puffed up with pride because he had a mighty army, giving mo credit to God nor trusting in him to lead them in battle.

Who were the Kenites...You are right they were spared because of their kind dealings with the Israelites.

They were an ancient people living near the land of Canaan around the time of Abraham (Genesis 15:18–21). The Bible mentions several dealings between the Israelites and the Kenites, who were always on friendly terms with each other.

Moses eventually Married  one of them, a woman named Zipporah (Exodus 2:16–21) and thus married into the Kenite tribe. Moses lived among the Kenites for many years before God called him as the one to deliver the Israelites from their enslavement in Egypt.

seems that the Kenites in Midian knew enough about the one true God to maintain a priest. The name Reuel means “friend of God.” After the exodus, Reuel’s knowledge of God dramatically increased, and he joined Moses and Aaron in bringing a burnt sacrifice and other offerings before the Lord to worship Him (Exodus 18:9–12).

I don't have an answe for your last question, but Ray did say on a few occasions ...It's all one thing and I see that more everyday.

octoberose:
I don't think we can presume to know the motives of G.Bush or anyone. And as a retired soldiers  wife, I can tell you the last thing they want to do is kill innocents.

Nelson Boils:
I wonder how did the Israelites feel when God gave them that commandment.Did they think "whoa!Kill suckling babies?"

I think it must've been difficult for them to follow through..

Perhaps it may have been a test on whether they will OBEY God above everything.Reminds me of whomever loves brother,mother,sister more than Jesus,is not worthy to be his disciple.

His commandments are difficult to follow!

ZekeSr:
Sometimes I have a hard time reading many of the things in the OT. And when I ask, "Why?," I have to turn to the New Testament in order to regroup my thoughts. So, I have nothing to add to this discussion in the way of explanation.
But consider this: Since 1973 Roe vs Wade, we as a so-called Christian nation have slaughtered 50 million (and counting) of our own innocents for no good reason.

Mike

lareli:

--- Quote from: octoberose on December 06, 2017, 02:26:32 AM ---I don't think we can presume to know the motives of G.Bush or anyone. And as a retired soldiers  wife, I can tell you the last thing they want to do is kill innocents.

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That’s a nice sentiment and before the internet existed I probably believed it. But the internet has brought more truth to light then has ever been before...

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