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Ricky:
I don't think it has nothing to do with anyone other than the ones Standing There at that time. Where does it say future people standing there.

Wanda:

--- Quote from: Ricky on January 04, 2018, 08:54:01 PM ---I don't think it has nothing to do with anyone other than the ones Standing There at that time. Where does it say future people standing there.

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Hi Ricky, my confusion on this was from my past indoctrination, which can run deep sometimes. Now, I just feel silly for questioning this before my own due diligence.

 

believechrist100:

--- Quote from: largeli on December 20, 2017, 11:08:19 AM ---A common question to Ray in the emails section is,

“Where should I go to church?”

Rays answer was that he knew of not one church that taught the things we learn here at bt.

My question to the forum is,

If there was a church in your town that did teach and believe what Ray taught, from the salvation of all, the sovereignty of God, exposing the lie of free will, and even all the way down to what Ray taught about tithing.. would you go/join?


I have to say I’d be hesitant.. probably a “no” for me though.

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"believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:21-24)

Essentially it's a no based practically on principle, calling a brick building a "church" is like calling your mother a washing machine. It's implausable. Also, remember this....true worship is obedience.

lareli:

--- Quote from: believechrist100 on January 14, 2018, 12:35:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: largeli on December 20, 2017, 11:08:19 AM ---A common question to Ray in the emails section is,

“Where should I go to church?”

Rays answer was that he knew of not one church that taught the things we learn here at bt.

My question to the forum is,

If there was a church in your town that did teach and believe what Ray taught, from the salvation of all, the sovereignty of God, exposing the lie of free will, and even all the way down to what Ray taught about tithing.. would you go/join?


I have to say I’d be hesitant.. probably a “no” for me though.

--- End quote ---

"believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:21-24)

Essentially it's a no based practically on principle, calling a brick building a "church" is like calling your mother a washing machine. It's implausable. Also, remember this....true worship is obedience.

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I agree. But when I say ‘church’ I’m not talking about a brick building, but instead a group of people who refer to themselves as a “we” and who have a “leader” or a head person. A organized hierarchy.

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