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Punishment of evil minded preachers/theologians
Rocco:
I was hoping someone could tell me what Ray said about the punishment that the preachers who preach eternal punishment in hell would actually receive themselves. On Ray's YouTube video/audio about "Repentance" toward the end of the video he said that he found out what their punishment would be and said we wouldn't believe it when he told us, but apparently he was saving it for another study. I've listened to all of his YouTube videos and never heard the answer.
Musterseed:
From the Towers Papers
To theologians and ministers context is the god of interpretation. Something is true ONLY in the
Context in which it is found. To them there are no universal truths, only contextual truths.
Theologians want everything in context—� God will put them in context and God will punish
and destroy them IN CONTEXT.
Ray Quotes,,,, Jer.25:34-38 Jer.25:26
I agree with Doug, maybe they will be persuaded to believe their own literal preaching of
hell. IN CONTEXT
Ray Quotes “ Don’t get on God’s froward side. For if we insist on doing abominable things,
God will turn those abominations back on us.
This is my limited understanding and I’m open to correction. In Christ Pamela
Rocco:
I found this transcript on this site and its from the audio I heard that I and based my question on. Here is the section in question.
They worship this monster that they think will torture most of humanity in real fire for all eternity! They gloat in it and they glory in it. It’s sick! It’s total spiritual perversion of the mind and heart. It is the ultimate blasphemy. Trust me when I say that.
If you could witness this actually happening... you’d be going through these chambers of hell and here you’d be looking at some teenagers that were rebellious and they’ve been burning in the fire for 79 trillion eons, screaming at the top of their lungs every second for trillions of eons. These people worship a God like that! WORSHIP! People get all huffy when I say, 'that’s garbage, that’s unscriptural heresy.' They don’t think about these things. These evils are unspeakable.
Let me tell you something, the scribes and the Pharisees never taught a doctrine this damnable. You listen to Jesus Christ. He called them everything but… I won’t say it. They never taught a doctrine half, a tenth, not a billionth as evil as what the church is teaching today. I’m telling you, this teaching of hell is the ultimate blasphemy. There is no greater sin that any human being can think or do, than to believe that the God that they worship will actually torture their mothers and fathers and some of their sisters and brothers and relatives in real fire for all eternity. It’s the ultimate sin. They think they are doing God a favor by teaching this.
No, they’re not going to be tortured for all eternity, because we are teaching against that.But wait until you find out what their punishment will be. It will blow you away.John Hagee teaches that if a dove were to take a fine silk scarf, put it in its beak and fly over the Rocky Mountains. As it flies over the mountains it would just caress the top of the granite peak and then fly back the other way and just caress the peaks with this hanky and he would keep switching hankies. That by the time he would wear the whole Rocky chain of mountains from Mexico to Canada into a valley, your punishment in hell had not even yet started compared to eternity. So this man has thought about it.
You won’t believe what his punishment is going to be. I could hardly believe it, but you’re going to learn that God is just. I mean He is so dead on, there’s nothing arbitrary about what and how God does things. You can’t say, well aren’t you punishing this person a little too much and this one not as much. I mean, I would think for what he did he should… etc.
Rocco:
Ray seemed to imply a very specific punishment for these preachers but I not found a specific answer. I did think about Rev. 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
ZekeSr:
I don't know how much this applies, but I have pondered it on many previous occasions and it may hint at the answer. Even Paul, after his conversion, (gladly) suffered many of the very same indignities that, before his conversion, he condoned and inflicted on Christians. Even though, at that time, he believed he was doing good. How much more will these shysters have to suffer if they have thought about it and actually know better.... or perhaps worse yet.... revel in the thought?
Mike
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